serious help playing/trying out for jazz band

\m/cliffB\m/ · #1 09-18-2009, 11:50 AM

ok then i got the sheet music here for jazz band its all sheet music and i cant read sheet so is there a way to turn sheet in to tab?

second thing is i got a sheet teaching 12 bar blues scales beginner intermediate and advance i dont no how to read or play them

for try outs i have to play land of make believe by chuck mangione arranged by victor Lopez and alrigth okay you win by sid wyche and mayme watts and arranged by Sammy nestico

tranceFusion · #2 09-18-2009, 12:35 PM

Here is my serious help for you:

It seems like you aren't ready for this band. Learn to read standard notation, learn what a basic blues chord progression is, and come back next year.

\m/cliffB\m/ · #3 09-18-2009, 01:20 PM

im a senior =[

standupright · #4 09-18-2009, 01:36 PM

1. the only way i know how to turn standard notation into tab, is by reading it and rewriting it in tab.

2. if they are handing out sheet music and you can't read it, you might be in trouble even if you make the audition.

3. if you don't understand 12 bar blues or blues patterns you might be in over your head a little.

i can't help you online with reading sheet music, but go here for an explanation and study of 12 bar blues bass concept - http://www.studybass.com/lessons/blu...ar-blues-form/

Fergie Fulton · #5 09-18-2009, 02:30 PM

Sorry but i have to agree your in over your head. But you do now know what you have to do to get such gigs. I feel you would do more damage and waste alot of peoples time if you try and blag this gig. I would leave it to another player who has the competance and skill to do it.
It's no bad thing to admit you can't handle something, that's a profesional attitude, that's honesty and that goes far better than being proved you can't handle it and looking like an amateur.
Learn, get better, and try again.
Good luck for the future.

tranceFusion · #6 09-18-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by \m/cliffB\m/

im a senior =[

Not to discourage people from their goals, but the high school jazz bands I have known of are full of kids who have participated in some sort of structured musical education consistently since they were in elementary school. It is not reasonable to expect you can half-a** your way to the same level. You need a new, more reasonable goal.

There are plenty of other opportunities to learn and grow, but you might have to try a little harder to find and/or organize those opportunities than you would a high school band. Local organizations, colleges, large companies, and government jobs usually have for-fun bands you can participate in.

Or you could just take the slacker route by waiting until you turn 21 at which point you will have legions of drunks hungry with desire to hear sloppily played renditions of Mustang Sally

\m/cliffB\m/ · #7 09-19-2009, 05:25 PM

lol nvm i no 12 bar blues and i learned one of the song i no how to read stranded notation but it takes time...like imagine a 1st grader learning to read basically wat i am

zagralin_arf · #8 09-19-2009, 05:36 PM

Just listen to a TON of jazz...and fake it.

Thats what I did. When I was a senior I couldn't read music worth crap, and at a workshop I actually had a professional upright player compliment me on my unusual use of modes and how I made these strange modes work for the songs.

I was just hitting notes. I didn't even know what key I was in. I even did that on basslines that were written out, I just memorized the position of the chords and doodled around in there...

standupright · #9 09-19-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by \m/cliffB\m/

lol nvm i no 12 bar blues and i learned one of the song i no how to read stranded notation but it takes time...like imagine a 1st grader learning to read basically wat i am

cool. next up, learning how to spell.

tranceFusion · #10 09-20-2009, 07:24 AM

Raiven · #11 09-20-2009, 10:48 AM

If you're committed to actually doing this properly then get a teacher and just go for it.

Worst that will happen is you get turned down, not a big deal.

Just do it properly though, if you're going to half arse it then no point.

LowDown Hal · #12 09-20-2009, 11:03 AM

When are tryouts? You say you can read notation, just not well? Take a sheet and start reading. EVERYDAY. if you really can read you'll get better fast.

milkman-27 · #13 09-20-2009, 12:48 PM

I had the same problem in high school. the music teacher talked me into signing up for jazz band at the end of my eighth grade year because I was the only kid in school who played. I told her that I couldn't read music and she said no problem that she would help me learn. I signed up for it and when I came back the next year she had quit over the summer. The new teacher was upset that I couldn't read music and went into a rant about Jazz band is for the best of the best in the school so I went to the couselor and asked to be transfered out of Jazz band. I go to the teacher the next day with my transfer slip for him sign and low and behold he begs me not to transfer because he realized that I was the only available bass player. He helped me learn to read music. It took me about a good couple of months to get anywhere near proficient at it. If you really want it you should learn how to read music. I would never have been able to play some of the music we played without learning to read music and it is a really valuable tool to have as a bass player along with having a good ear. I stayed in jazz band until I graduated and I loved every second of it.

Michael Case · #14 09-20-2009, 06:25 PM

Well, here is one example of LEARNING MUSIC right off the bat. If you can read, spend the time reading through the music and just memorize the written lines. That will be more helpful to you then trying to write it out in tab.

\m/cliffB\m/ · #15 09-24-2009, 02:09 PM

well i see that it isnt that hard and im sellinf more cofedent now

fishsticks · #16 09-24-2009, 02:11 PM

+1 on studybass.com
http://www.studybass.com/lessons/reading-music/

caeman · #17 09-24-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman-27

I go to the teacher the next day with my transfer slip for him sign and low and behold he begs me not to transfer because he realized that I was the only available bass player.

Did this teacher offer up an apology for unloading their personal opinions on you like that? That is a horrible thing to do to such a young psyche.

\m/cliffB\m/ · #18 09-24-2009, 02:48 PM

i love study bass

MonkeyBass · #19 09-24-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by standupright

cool. next up, learning how to spell.

Learn to read music and learn to spell your words and bigger and better opportunities will open up to you. Not just in music, but in life.

suraci · #20 09-24-2009, 05:35 PM

If you spend hours and hours a day listening to and learning the music, maybe with a teacher you can learn this music in time- depends on talent, and massive willpower.

Is English your 1st language?

Your English is far better than my Farsi or Spanish.... but if you are English first.. you had better get ahold of yourself, young man.

We live in a world that expects us to be articulate with English.

I struggle too, but come on now, hit those books!