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Old 11-01-2008, 09:43 AM
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Hi all. I have started playing again after many years off (as I have said before). Here is my background and then what I am trying to accomplish:

I played Alto Sax in middle school for 3 years so I have an elementary understanding of music. Really only at the level of timing and the treble clef. I can generally look at a piece of simple music and know what it should sound like and be played like. At a very elementary level. I am grateful for that experience as it still pays off to this day.

After that I picked up guitar and learned to play by ear, only knowing which notes were which on the fretboard in relation to what I learned in school. I still have to think about it when playing. Later found interest in bass and developed that by ear. You know the old school way playing record sections over and over and over and over. I got to an intermediate level at best.

Now years later my interest in playing has sparked again. I could develop quickly playing by ear, but I want to be able to know what someone is talking about when they say "hey, lets try that in A instead". I have been looking around TB and some other sites. I started with the thread on chromatic scales, triads etc and followed it fairly well. I looked up Circle of Fifths and could vaguely follow it. I started feeling overwhelmed and wondering if I was looking at the right things at the right time. All of a sudden I realize I know almost nothing of theory. I guess my question is where do I get started to take a methodical, practical approach to my musical understanding online without the ability to pay for a private teacher right now as I am looking at putting my 2 kids in lessons as it is? Thanks so much.
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:04 PM
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I need to learn how to read music for bass, how do i do it? Learn to read music
I need basic music theory help... Theory
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A very helpful program for learning the notes on the bass clef. (as recommended by AlphaMale)
http://www.download.com/NoteCard/300...cdlPid=1509909

Online:
http://www.teoria.com/ Check out the tutorials, exercises and reference(dictionary).
http://www.good-ear.com/ ear training

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Old 11-02-2008, 03:08 PM
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Stubo do you have a better link than this one? http://www.download.com/NoteCard/300...html?tag=lst-5

It doesn't work. Thanks for your help.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:12 PM
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I'll recommend www.studybass.com

It has been helping me a lot.
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:45 PM
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Stubo do you have a better link than this one? http://www.download.com/NoteCard/300...html?tag=lst-5

It doesn't work. Thanks for your help.

Try this one, it's for Windows.
http://www.download.com/NoteCard/300...cdlPid=1509909
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:32 PM
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Yeah studybass.com is good for me as well as the exercises on here. I find that if I stick with just those 2 things in addition to learning songs by ear I am able to focus and learn. Thanks everyone.
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:27 AM
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My cut/pasted reply to this sort of question:
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THEORY PROGRESSION
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Theory can seem like a quagmire to those who are starting out, and it's often difficult to know just how important a particular aspect of it is.
I will say that learning how chords are built from scales is the most important aspect of theory. It is far more useful to understand chord construction than to memorize all those "Scales A and B go with chord X" formulas.

I'd say the logical progression learning music theory is kinda like this:

1.) learn the major scale, and how it's constructed
2.) learn the minor scale and the dominant scale and how it relates to the major scale (i.e.; its the V and vi mode)
3.) understand how other 4 modes of the major scale are derived (less important to memorize these other modes at first)
4.) Learn how to harmonize the notes of a major and minor scale by building chords / stacking thirds.
5.) Learn to look at common chord progressions as "numerals" (eg, I-IV-V ect) to understand how the chords relate to the song's key.
7.) Learn arppegios/chord tones, and pentatonic scales for major/minor/dominant scales.
8.) dive back into modes for more detailed ideas about what "goes" with what chord.

Bass playing is basically a matter of knowing what to play over various chords. It may seem daunting at first, but my practical experience (bass in pop/rock) has been that I mostly use Major, Minor, and Dominant 7 related bassline patterns, usually based on chord tones and pentatonics.
Even if you're playing some guitar oriented riff-rock, each riff is going to imply a chord of some kind.

85%+ of the time, you will be going from root note to root note as the chords change. The trick learning is how to do it with a groove and feel that is stylistically appropriate to the song. The best way to reach stylistic understanding is to learn songs you like and pick them apart to see how the bassline relates to the chords.

If Jazz is your thing, you will probably be learning theory forever.
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