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Old 06-09-2006, 04:42 PM
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Something weird happened...does it mean anything?

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So this thing happened just now while I was practicing...

I was noodling around, trying to find some good sounding stuff, and I played the low G then the low A. But I played it with a rhythm that made it sound very familiar. A song started playing in my head, and I wondered what song it was. Then I remembered that it was "space truckin'" by deep purple, or at least that's what was playing in my head. So I started trying to figure out the riff. Low and behold, a couple minutes later, I had figured out the main riff to that song.

So my question is: What does this mean? Does it count as transcribing something? Is it just a fluke? Am I over-analyzing?
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Old 06-09-2006, 05:36 PM
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It means the bit of your brain that listens is starting to develop.

Instead of just two sounds you contructed them into something meaningfull - similar to the way another bit of your brain turns sounds into words into meanings. It took you years (as a child) to develop that skill - now this new bit of brain is starting to get some exercise.

Finding meaning in sounds is somthing thats learnt - keep working on it and it gets easier!

I often wonder what music sounds like to people who haven't learnt to listen (and simlarly what it sounds like with greater listening skills!). I get clues ocasionally from what they say - when they can't distinguish instruments, or idenitfy pitch. I also remember the first time I was exposed to certain kinds of music (like Jazz or Metal), before I'd learned to listen to it, and it sounded just a mush - I guess to those without any musical training all music sounds like that...

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Old 06-09-2006, 05:56 PM
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I find myself playing a song just about every time I practice scales. It could be something like Rock a bye baby (minor scale) or When the Saints Go Marching In (Ionian major) or The Star Spangled Banner (A Lydian I believe?). I actually think it's really cool to hear just the piece of a melody and piece the rest together without the actual music playing.

I find it interesting how many kid songs (that's most of what I hear at home right now ) are simple runs around a scale.
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Play an Ionian from the top octave down to the bottom in order, and you've got "Joy To The World."
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thats how i learnt blister in the sun... just noodling and hey this seems familiar...
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:14 PM
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it should eventually be happening to every musician. its an important skill to acquire. i often find myself playing money by pink floyd, its based on the 3rd pentatonic on the D major scale. that would make it a phrygian mode i guess.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:39 PM
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Just recently I was working on a high pattern for a bass instrumental, and ended uip realising I was making it into that first guitar line in "Man in the Mirror"

Stuff like that will happen from time to time. Most music isn't totally original, coming normally from things you've heard in the past, unconsiously, and sometimes you'll end up with the exact line that the idea came from to begin with
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Just recently I was working on a high pattern for a bass instrumental, and ended uip realising I was making it into that first guitar line in "Man in the Mirror"

Stuff like that will happen from time to time. Most music isn't totally original, coming normally from things you've heard in the past, unconsiously, and sometimes you'll end up with the exact line that the idea came from to begin with
That kinda happened to me

I was playing a line that i thought i wrote for some guys i jam with the other day. They thought i was playing a TOOL song. The thing is, i've never heard any TOOL. So now i'm kinda bummed

here's it is, can someone tell me if it really is TOOL and which song?

---------<7>--------<7>-------<7>--------<7>----------
-----<7>--------<7>-------<7>--------<7>--------------
--8-----------6----------5----------5-----------5---5---
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(Let everything ring throughout)
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That kinda happened to me

I was playing a line that i thought i wrote for some guys i jam with the other day. They thought i was playing a TOOL song. The thing is, i've never heard any TOOL. So now i'm kinda bummed

here's it is, can someone tell me if it really is TOOL and which song?

---------<7>--------<7>-------<7>--------<7>----------
-----<7>--------<7>-------<7>--------<7>--------------
--8-----------6----------5----------5-----------5---5---
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(Let everything ring throughout)
I'm not sure if that is a Tool bass line or not but a common feature of Tool songs is a grouping of 3-4 notes repeated in an ascending pattern, like you have. Just go to thier website (www.toolband.com) and watch the intro for the website - it plays the first 20 or so second of Vicarious. Just listen and you will hear the pattern. I highly recomend the album by the way...and thats not just b/c I'm a major fan . Justin Chancellor is truely an amazing bass player and a poineer/master of the bass wah.
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when they can't distinguish instruments, or idenitfy pitch. I also remember the first time I was exposed to certain kinds of music (like Jazz or Metal), before I'd learned to listen to it, and it sounded just a mush
Almost everyone I know can't distinguish between bass guitar and guitar; and pays absolutely no conscious attention to the drums or how they sound
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