Ten Minute Bass Virtuoso by David Motto

[_chrispy]

Ok, So let me start by saying that I don't buy into these thing and i know there is no quick solutions to improve my playing but has anyone seen this? Ten Minute Bass Virtuoso by David Motto The reason why i ask is that its written by David Motto, i have his reading books and i think they are great. So i'd be really interested in find out what is in this one... Just not enough to buy it.

[fearceol]

While I admit to knowing nothing about this man or the book, the word "secret" started alarm bells ringing right away. Why ? Because there are no secrets to learning any instrument. Only the old boring mundane things that everyone knows...i.e. time, patience, and practice.


Personally, I'd rather spend my money on "knee to knee" lessons with a teacher.

[sammyp]

LOL ...it looks like a time management course for bass players ...work smart not hard etc .....project manager secrets? hmmm .....time management is good, i'm not good at it but when it comes to music i quite enjoy spending alot more than 10 minutes a day with my guitar or bass as i'm sure all of us do here .......really.....10 minutes/ day and mastery don't belong together when it comes to music .....

he seems to have a web presence for his books and i've seen his sightreading book in stores ....however i can't seem to find any example of his playing on his site or youtube ....

[DavidMotto]

I just joined TalkBass when I got a Google alert for my name and came across your discussion of my new bass book. Thanks for checking out my website. I totally agree that spending as much time as possible with your bass and taking private lessons are fantastic ways to master your instrument.

And, while I clearly have a financial stake in the success of my book sales, it’s just as important that all bass players embrace the latest information coming not only from music professionals but also from scientific research into deliberate practice, acquiring skills, motivation techniques, and enhancing long-term memory and muscle memory. Most music teachers don’t know much about these areas, which is why I consider them “secrets.”

Here’s what got me into this stuff: I’ve been teaching private bass lessons since 1985, and I also spent a dozen years as the electric bass instructor at San Francisco State University. About 15 years ago, I realized that I didn’t really know the best way to guide my students in HOW to practice on all the days in between lessons. This put me on a quest to find the best information, and I’ve been researching this issue ever since.

If you want to get a small taste of some of the very basics of everything I’ve learned, please go to www.moltomusic.com/bass-virtuoso-special-report. Sign up for the free report, try the techniques in the report, and see if they help you. After you try the techniques, please add more to this discussion thread or feel free to send me an email with your thoughts.

[miltslackford]

No offence David but your site looks quite spammy. It doesn't look very credible to me.

[DavidMotto]

I appreciate the feedback on that webpage. I spend all my time playing, teaching, reading, and writing about music - and I just trusted some web designers to put together that page.

Any specific suggestions to improve the webpage would be terrific! Then, bass players can more easily access some great information to improve their playing, practicing, and learning habits.

[Britbonic]

Since you're asking for feedback, my advice would be to ditch this website and everything and everyone associated with it. I have no doubt that there are valuable tips in your book but the tone and approach cheapens that value and undermines your credibility.

This website is your personal brand. You'll need web designers to build the site and maybe copywriters for the text but you need to take control of your personal brand and own the message and how it is presented. Take a look at how other great players/authors/instructors like Ed Friedland, Victor Wooten, Anthony Wellington, Anthony Vitti and countless others present themselves and their personal brand on line.

There should be much, much less text on your website. Just hit the key points and the value that players will gain from your book. Post up some samples - I shouldn't have to give you my email address for that. Add some sample videos that showing some of your tips. If the free content has value, people will be more inclined to go ahead and purchase the book.

Hope that helps.

[miltslackford]

I agree with the poster above.

The website you have currently presents your information but it does it in a way which is sort of like a combination of every internet spam sales tactic going. It's not your fault, the guys who designed it for you probably told you that was 'the way things are done' on the internet. It is, unfortunately.

The idea of your book is similar in concept to an existing book which is something like '101 bass tips'.

I would focus on the layout of your content and the quality of the writing. Good instructional material is quite rare. If you teach no doubt you know this. In my studio I have at least 50 books and only about 5 I use regularly.

There are a few authors who have written great books like John Ganapes (for blues guitar)
Blues You Can Use
His first book is probably the best written music instructional book I've come across.

Marc-Andre Seguin runs a great jazz guitar site at
Jazz Guitar Lessons .net : 100% FREE Top Quality Instructional Material

There are probably countless others. Many people give away material for free to build a relationship with students/customers.

If you have some good material then I think that's a great thing. But like the last poster said, you can just be straight about what's in the book. If it's good content, well laid out, that is rare enough and people will be prepared to pay for it.

[ubnomnar]

Originally Posted by DavidMotto

I appreciate the feedback on that webpage. I spend all my time playing, teaching, reading, and writing about music - and I just trusted some web designers to put together that page.

Any specific suggestions to improve the webpage would be terrific! Then, bass players can more easily access some great information to improve their playing, practicing, and learning habits.

Hi David... I work in the fitness business and have purchased many thousands of dollars worth of "information products" on the internet. I have also used those products to generate additional income far in excess of the initial cost of the materials.

I'm used to "squeeze" pages and your "10 Minute Bass Virtuoso Page" is laid out in typical fashion.

The only missing part is that I don't already "know, like and trust" you.

However, I checked out your main website, joined your mailing list, and downloaded my free copy of the "3 Biggest Mistakes Bass Players Make (and How to Overcome Them)" report.

I spent 5 minutes reading through the well written 18 page report and found enough value that minutes later I purchased your $67 premium package.

My last set of strings (Dogal Carbon Flats) cost more than your product.

If it contains more of what I found in the free report I will be supremely happy with the small sum I spent.

I first picked up a bass in 1973 and music is a hobby for me. I waste far too much time making far too little progress on bass so I'm looking forward to putting your methods to work for me.

I'm glad I checked out this thread today and I'm excited to be trying something new to improve my playing.

Thanks

[_chrispy]

Originally Posted by ubnomnar

Hi David... I work in the fitness business and have purchased many thousands of dollars worth of "information products" on the internet. I have also used those products to generate additional income far in excess of the initial cost of the materials.

I'm used to "squeeze" pages and your "10 Minute Bass Virtuoso Page" is laid out in typical fashion.

The only missing part is that I don't already "know, like and trust" you.

However, I checked out your main website, joined your mailing list, and downloaded my free copy of the "3 Biggest Mistakes Bass Players Make (and How to Overcome Them)" report.

I spent 5 minutes reading through the well written 18 page report and found enough value that minutes later I purchased your $67 premium package.

My last set of strings (Dogal Carbon Flats) cost more than your product.

If it contains more of what I found in the free report I will be supremely happy with the small sum I spent.

I first picked up a bass in 1973 and music is a hobby for me. I waste far too much time making far too little progress on bass so I'm looking forward to putting your methods to work for me.

I'm glad I checked out this thread today and I'm excited to be trying something new to improve my playing.

Thanks

Make sure you let us know what you think when you've had a chance to look through it.

[1SHOT1HIT]

Originally Posted by Britbonic

Since you're asking for feedback, my advice would be to ditch this website and everything and everyone associated with it. I have no doubt that there are valuable tips in your book but the tone and approach cheapens that value and undermines your credibility.

This website is your personal brand. You'll need web designers to build the site and maybe copywriters for the text but you need to take control of your personal brand and own the message and how it is presented. Take a look at how other great players/authors/instructors like Ed Friedland, Victor Wooten, Anthony Wellington, Anthony Vitti and countless others present themselves and their personal brand on line.

There should be much, much less text on your website. Just hit the key points and the value that players will gain from your book. Post up some samples - I shouldn't have to give you my email address for that. Add some sample videos that showing some of your tips. If the free content has value, people will be more inclined to go ahead and purchase the book.

Hope that helps.

This + 1,000,000 I have spent most of my adult life in sales and marketing and this post while still missing some key basics is pretty dead on.

Your page definitely has that "Oh it's another internet scam to get my money" Look.

I closed it as soon as I opened it, I honestly didn't even look at the first word. It screams scam and leaves me feeling like I need to check my wallet pocket to make sure that it's still there and wasn't just stolen.
You know that dirty feeling of being scared that someone just tried to rip you off.

PERSONALIZE your page, use friendly colors (Study what colors create certain moods) Red and white make me think WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING.
SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM
ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT
RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN
TROUBLE TROUBLE TROUBLE

Your teaching bass, I'd maybe think soft neutral colors deep colors, wood colors, things that bring comfort, and inspire deeper thought, deep greens browns of different shades, and earth tones.
Show a nice picture of yourself, I want to know who it is that I'm about to invite into my home and wallet.
Dress professional in your photo, be sure to casually have a very nice bass in the photo make me want to learn from you and in essence make me want to know what you know.

SHOW SAMPLES, SAMPLES SAMPLES SAMPLES SAMPLES SAMPLES.
I'm not buying anything I can't try out first.
And if you can't spare at least a decent few samples that leave me desperately craving more. That tells me that there must not be very much information available to begin with.

Not your best stuff but make it good and make it count. Show me why your method is much easier than me just sitting looking at the countless videos online currently for free.

I could go on and on but I have to get back to my kids, good luck to you and advice is never free, I'll need a free copy of your book and video in the mail by weeks end thanks

[1SHOT1HIT]

Originally Posted by ubnomnar

Hi David... I work in the fitness business and have purchased many thousands of dollars worth of "information products" on the internet. I have also used those products to generate additional income far in excess of the initial cost of the materials.

I'm used to "squeeze" pages and your "10 Minute Bass Virtuoso Page" is laid out in typical fashion.

The only missing part is that I don't already "know, like and trust" you.

However, I checked out your main website, joined your mailing list, and downloaded my free copy of the "3 Biggest Mistakes Bass Players Make (and How to Overcome Them)" report.

I spent 5 minutes reading through the well written 18 page report and found enough value that minutes later I purchased your $67 premium package.

My last set of strings (Dogal Carbon Flats) cost more than your product.

If it contains more of what I found in the free report I will be supremely happy with the small sum I spent.

I first picked up a bass in 1973 and music is a hobby for me. I waste far too much time making far too little progress on bass so I'm looking forward to putting your methods to work for me.

I'm glad I checked out this thread today and I'm excited to be trying something new to improve my playing.

Thanks

Sorry if I'm completely wrong but why does this reek of affiliation?

Almost like the paid actors on the infomercials?

[xdanxx]

someone actually spent money on this?

[ubnomnar]

Originally Posted by 1SHOT1HIT

Sorry if I'm completely wrong but why does this reek of affiliation?

Probably because you are not open to learning.

I have absolutely no affiliation. But, after 39 years of mostly doing my own thing on bass I'm "open to learning."

Spending $50 or $60 on improving my playing is well worth it.

Like I said, I have bought thousands of dollars worth of fitness information products off the internet. I have also made thousands of dollars from "free" information products designed to get me to know, like and trust a seller.

Checking out Molto Music was very simple.

1) I recognized the "squeeze" page for what it is.
2) I went to the home website which is not a "sales squeeze page"
3) I joined his mail list to get my free report.
4) I read the free report and judged it worthy of my time.
5) I went back and ordered the main item expecting to get more of what I found in the "free" report.
6) I've already read up to page 23 of 118 and feel that my money was well spent.
7) I do this every day with fitness information products. It's how I get new ideas to improve my business... and in this case my bass playing.

[JimmyM]

ubnomnar, that is fine. If you found it useful, that's wonderful. And I certainly understand the need to sell books...if that's what you do to put food on the table, that's fine, too. But I have a real problem with people who write books and give them titles like "10 Minute Bass Virtuoso" because it's clearly designed to make people think they can become virtuosos without putting in the work. Ain't gonna happen, and while I'm sure your intentions are honorable, David, I would really rethink that strategy if you're looking to be taken seriously.

[1SHOT1HIT]

Originally Posted by ubnomnar

Probably because you are not open to learning.

I have absolutely no affiliation. But, after 39 years of mostly doing my own thing on bass I'm "open to learning."

Spending $50 or $60 on improving my playing is well worth it.

Like I said, I have bought thousands of dollars worth of fitness information products off the internet. I have also made thousands of dollars from "free" information products designed to get me to know, like and trust a seller.

Checking out Molto Music was very simple.

1) I recognized the "squeeze" page for what it is.
2) I went to the home website which is not a "sales squeeze page"
3) I joined his mail list to get my free report.
4) I read the free report and judged it worthy of my time.
5) I went back and ordered the main item expecting to get more of what I found in the "free" report.
6) I've already read up to page 23 of 118 and feel that my money was well spent.
7) I do this every day with fitness information products. It's how I get new ideas to improve my business... and in this case my bass playing.

I'm open to learning, and my apologies if you are not affiliated in any way. Your response just kinda seemed cliche.
No offense intended.

[Bassics101]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

ubnomnar, that is fine. If you found it useful, that's wonderful. And I certainly understand the need to sell books...if that's what you do to put food on the table, that's fine, too. But I have a real problem with people who write books and give them titles like "10 Minute Bass Virtuoso" because it's clearly designed to make people think they can become virtuosos without putting in the work. Ain't gonna happen, and while I'm sure your intentions are honorable, David, I would really rethink that strategy if you're looking to be taken seriously.

I could not have said it better.

[ubnomnar]

Originally Posted by 1SHOT1HIT

I'm open to learning, and my apologies if you are not affiliated in any way. Your response just kinda seemed cliche.
No offense intended.

No offense taken. It just seems all the responses other than mine... are knee-jerk reactions to a "Sales Squeeze Page" and have nothing to do with the qualifications of David Motto, or the actual content of the materials he is offering.

Before yesterday, I had never heard of him. It's easy to "Google" his name and find out more about him and what he offers.

I create "promotional" emails for a list of more than a thousand people that know, like and trust me because they have done business with me.

If I wasn't familiar with "Squeeze Pages" and only judged the potential value of the material by my initial perception of a "Spammy Squeeze Page" I would have missed out on many great ideas to improve my practicing and playing.

One good idea is worth it's weight in gold if it gives me the inspiration and motivation to take action and head in a new direction that I would not have come up with on my own.

The "free report" made it instantly clear to me that I would find value in the material.

I am not an "idea creator" but I am great at taking the ideas of others and spinning them into something that I can use to my benefit, both personally and professionally.

I was only motivated to "dig deeper" into the "10 Minute Bass Virtuoso" after seeing how it was instantly dismissed/ridiculed by others who most like didn't bother to gather any additional information.

New Ideas are Priceless to me... if I can put them to use.

However, I will condemn crap as fast as anybody. I am very pleased with the "ideas" I purchased.

[kerrycares]

David
I downloaded your information ....................... great simple advice !
I learned these same principles at a much more expensive option.
I do think that a good teacher that teaches these principles is priceless.
Keep up the good work.

[DavidMotto]

Thank you to everyone for taking the time to offer your criticism and suggestions of my web pages. I'm in the process of updating them, which will take a while.

I realize there are two questions I need answered from the bass community to help me communicate why the information in my books will be helpful to you:
1. How much do you practice? (# of days/week and time/day)
2. What is the number one issue you struggle with when you practice?

If anyone cares to answer this informal survey, it would be great information to share.

Thanks again for the criticism and suggestions!!