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Old 08-14-2009, 01:05 PM
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THIN PICKS/FAT PICKS /FINGERS

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I would like to understand something that everyone knows..but who knows WHY ?
Thin Picks= thinner sound, fat picks = fatter sound, fingers fatter again..........but why ? how does what you play the string with affect the sound? What is actually happenening?
OK I know we all know abou the different sounds...but why is it different?
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:46 PM
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Thin hard picks sound thin. Thin soft picks don't.

So my guess would be it's in the stiffness of the picking material.
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Ah OK...I hadn´t thought of that but it makes sense....fingers are softer so fatter sound...hmm who makes good soft picks???
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it also depends on how you hold the pick, (45 degree angle or whatever) and how close to pick toward the bridge. Personally I like thin picks.
You get a very clean sound; especially for punk and rock and roll.

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Old 09-12-2009, 08:24 PM
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"Who makes good soft picks?"

I used to buy felt plectrums before I got my pizzicato going. They were about the size of your thumb (2"x1"x1/4"). They looked gray or like that bluish felt used to make insoles, only harder. They lend a nice soft tone, not as good as your fingers, but they have their place. When they get worn, they soften up and loose their stiffness. If you're interested, try:

http://www.beckettsmusic.co.uk/shop/...dProduct=10532
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http://www.giggear.co.uk/p/Jim-Dunlop-Felt-Pick/

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It's called "string engagement." You're able to engage the string more and excite it more with a thicker pick. It's why a lot of upright bass players cock their hand and pluck the strings with the side of the finger...same principle...they use more finger to engage a wider amount of string to make the tone bigger.
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According to the text book "The Science of Sound" Rossing et al, a plucked string results in a vibration that can be considered the sum of all the normal modes of vibration of that string. Because all the modes have different frequencies they will quickly get out of phase with one another and the shape of the string changes rapidly after plucking.

When the string is plucked with a finger or other soft object (including thin picks) then the point of last contact that allows the string to vibrate freely is spread out over a longer period of time and this prevents the higher harmonics from forming as the string has already changed shape over numerous cycles and much of the energy input to the string has been dissipated in lower frequency content and out of phase vibrations.

Using a pick, particularly thicker (more massive and more stiff) picks, allows the full input force to be transmitted to the string over the shortest period of time so that higher harmonic content has a chance propagate without damping from contact between string and pick.

Related to this is location of the plucking on the string. If the string is plucked in the center then the resulting vibration consists of the fundamental plus the odd numbered harmonics. Even numbered harmonics are canceled out by the pair of pulses that are traveling up and down the string in opposite directions. Moving the point of contact farther down the string results in fewer fundamentals being canceled out but also in less string amplitude (volume). This is why picking close to the bridge results in the greatest number of overtones but requires more work from the fingers to get the same volume. And it's why, when I do use a pick, I usually use a very large pick made of cymbal brass.
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Try a thick rubber pick...closest to fingers that I've ever used.
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I thought the idea of using a pick was to get a sound different than from fingers??

If you're all trying to get the finger sound by getting all kinds of weird pick types, why not just learn to use your fingers - its easier than a pick by a longshot...
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