To those who actually eat,breath and live gospel music

JAUQO III-X · #1 07-27-2009, 06:56 AM

In the attached clip below,starting at the 1:33 point and ending at about the 3:26 point is the music played really gospel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVm0W...=gospel%20bass

onlyclave · #2 07-27-2009, 08:18 AM

Who really cares? I'd watch Janek blow any time instead of listening to gospel.

JAUQO III-X · #3 07-27-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyclave

Who really cares? I'd watch Janek blow any time instead of listening to gospel.

jeremyr · #4 07-27-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

In the attached clip below,starting at the 1:33 point and ending at about the 3:26 point is the music played really gospel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVm0W...=gospel%20bass

Yes and No,

yes as you might find yourself doing some solos during some worship breaks, however you most likely will never hear a groove that's that fast. It's just to "fusion" sounding.

Now this isn't to say that you can't have a "fusion" vibe, but that segment that you pointed out would not fit in ANY church service, concert, or program I've Ever been to or played at in my life.

Now when Bubby come in at 3:37 you get more of a worship style type of thing you would find yourself in.

jeremyr · #5 07-27-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyclave

Who really cares? I'd watch Janek blow any time instead of listening to gospel.

Well seeing that the name of the DVD is "GOSPEL CHOPS.COM PRESENTS: BASS SESSIONZ VOL. 1" a lot of people care from the gospel background do.

onlyclave · #6 07-27-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jeremyr

Well seeing that the name of the DVD is "GOSPEL CHOPS.COM PRESENTS: BASS SESSIONZ VOL. 1" a lot of people care from the gospel background do.

Is that because it's from "GOSPEL CHOPS.COM'? Because I would think "BASS SESSIONZ VOL. 1" would tell me what I'm getting into.

That's like complaining HOME DEPOT isn't a real estate agent.

jeremyr · #7 07-27-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyclave

Is that because it's from "GOSPEL CHOPS.COM'? Because I would think "BASS SESSIONZ VOL. 1" would tell me what I'm getting into.

That's like complaining HOME DEPOT isn't a real estate agent.

Hmmmmmm, while I can see your approach I'm not convicted by it.

Maybe it's because I was hoping for it to be a "Gospel" Bass players DVD kind of how the drummer DVD's were. Most of us (that being gospel bassist) DO have a VERY high appreciation for Janek and Haddrien, but with that being said we want to hear and learn from Gospel Bass players. I think it's more of a context thing and application vs. the players themselves.

Heck I know for SURE that Janek would absolutely destroy me in Fusion, but that's no my interest and seeing how it seems like 80% of the DVD is Gospel music, the connection is very weak for me. If they sounded more "Gospel" I wouldn't have any gripes.

Heck as far as I know the DVD could be the most absolute best thing that's ever hit, but from talking to others most people have the same concerns about the dvd.

msiner · #8 07-27-2009, 10:23 AM

Gospel or not, that is some intense "bass face" going on with that guy.

pointbass · #9 07-27-2009, 10:54 AM

While all are obviously talented individuals, I would be sorely disappointed if I bought that DVD with the intention of seeing some solid gospel bass work. Not having seen the DVD itself, it's possible that there is a lot of good gospel stuff in there, but I sure don't get that impression from the YouTube video.

In fairness to the question, I don't "eat, breathe and live" gospel music but I do have a fairly decent background in it, and that DVD clip is not what I'm accustomed to hearing in a gospel setting .......

Hoover · #10 07-27-2009, 12:02 PM

if Jesus made him play like that, then yes...

LilRay · #11 07-27-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

if Jesus made him play like that, then yes...

+1 And to add If he is playing for the exhaltation of God/Christ then yes as well.

Does Gospel Music have a form, more than a purpose?

God Bless, Ray

mvw356 · #12 07-27-2009, 12:41 PM

Jesus approves the fodera, so yeah it is gospel.

Dr. Cheese · #13 07-27-2009, 12:53 PM

I cannot argue against divine inspiration, but on a more practical level, I think a gospel CD should help a player play more effectively in current styles used in worship music. The people inspired to do something new probably don't need a gospel instructional CD.

Joe Gress · #14 07-27-2009, 12:59 PM

I would love to see the start and end of that song. I mean, if the jam went in that direction from a more traditional gospel song, it would be pretty cool.

mstott25 · #15 07-27-2009, 05:28 PM

It's not a gospel bass dvd. It's titled "Bass Sessionz" and it's just a dvd with some killer bass players. The company who produced the video is GospelChops, hence the GospelChops presents, but it's still titled "Bass Sesionz" and the description itself will tell you what you can expect.

It's no more or less gospel than the gospelchops drumsticks they sell.

bottomzone · #16 07-27-2009, 06:47 PM

What Janek is playing my not be gospel, and as others have said, you would not expect to hear in church or on a gospel recording-but it's real good playing!!!

A Groove is a Terrible Thing to Waste!

J. Crawford · #17 07-27-2009, 06:55 PM

And as I just read in the other Gospel Chopz thread, the video is based to meet both Gospel, and fusion bass players. Janek is just part of the fusion players, meeting the gospel players.

Intenzity · #18 07-27-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by onlyclave

Who really cares? I'd watch Janek blow any time instead of listening to gospel.

Totally.

It could be called "PolkaChops" and I would still be checking it out.

Dr_Funkdamental · #19 07-27-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremyr

Hmmmmmm, while I can see your approach I'm not convicted by it.

Maybe it's because I was hoping for it to be a "Gospel" Bass players DVD kind of how the drummer DVD's were. Most of us (that being gospel bassist) DO have a VERY high appreciation for Janek and Haddrien, but with that being said we want to hear and learn from Gospel Bass players. I think it's more of a context thing and application vs. the players themselves.

Heck I know for SURE that Janek would absolutely destroy me in Fusion, but that's no my interest and seeing how it seems like 80% of the DVD is Gospel music, the connection is very weak for me. If they sounded more "Gospel" I wouldn't have any gripes.

Heck as far as I know the DVD could be the most absolute best thing that's ever hit, but from talking to others most people have the same concerns about the dvd.

+1000. I mean in the past GospelChops bass clips have mainly been gospel players showing things they utilize in a worship setting (Dale Black, CJ, Justin). If cats were real with themselves, no offense to the players, but you would never have related Hadrien and Janek to gospel. I can bring up all the various threads asking about who to listen to for that "gospel" feel, licks, etc., and you wont find their names.

IMO strictly for marketing purposes.

Chipsonfire · #20 07-27-2009, 11:38 PM

While the DVD was released by GOSPELCHOPS.COM, the description reads:

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BASS SESSIONZ VOL. 1 : The highly anticipated High Definition DVD from GospelChops features the hottest bassists of gospel and jazz on one stage!

I'm not sure this will make anyone feel better, but at least they know it's not gospel, and don't claim it to be.