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Old 05-14-2007, 11:27 AM
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I'm proof that it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. I am however willing to try. Seems I'm wanting to get back into transcribing these days. Problem is, I haven't done it since the days of records and cassette tapes.... yes, that long! The time has come and I need advice. What do you use to transcribe? Advice on advantages and disadvantages would be most appreciated. I've seen the Tascam bass trainer and find that interesting. Thanks for any help.
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What are you looking for just something that is easy to loop sections with, or something that can change tempo without changing pitch, or change key.

I use my computer for my practice tool. By using a digital track I don't end up scratching up a record, or stretching the cassette tape or worse. I use iTunes, but most player software you can import your CD and then play it in the software. With click of the mouse I can jump anywhere in a tune. Then there is software like Transcribe that will change the tempo or change the key without sounding weird like old days of slowing down a tape deck or record. I use Mac mainly these days and they have software called GarageBand. I can import a tune then plug my bass into the Mac. I create a track for the bass and I can play along with the tune, loop section, even record my bass and check what I did. I would say consider the computer options avaiable. It all better than old days wearing out a record and the needle on the stereo trying to transcribe a song or take down the lyrics.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:47 PM
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Hey Docbop,
Thanks for your reply. The school system I teach in, just purchaced Mac laptops that have Garageband in them. So now, I just need to learn how to use it.
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Old 05-14-2007, 03:17 PM
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i use a program called "transcribe"

can alter speed & pitch, loop. analyze notes, etc.

Very good software, free 30 day trial and $50 after that.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:11 AM
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I'm proof that it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. I am however willing to try. Seems I'm wanting to get back into transcribing these days. Problem is, I haven't done it since the days of records and cassette tapes.... yes, that long! The time has come and I need advice. What do you use to transcribe? Advice on advantages and disadvantages would be most appreciated. I've seen the Tascam bass trainer and find that interesting. Thanks for any help.
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I use Winamp for the stuff you can work out in real time, as it whizzes past... you can easily pause & rewind etc...

if I need to zero in a bit further, i'll use Wavelab... you can time stretch the tune... sometimes that helps although sometimes it introduces artifacts that make it harder to hear what's going on

the best thing about Wavelab is the ability to zero in on the waveform and pull out very short bursts of notes... you can set it looping... sometimes this is very useful for faint & quick passing notes in a busy phrase... your ear can get confused by big strong notes either side, so I can isolate one single 16th note chunk of time in Wavelab, loop it so it's a drone and pick out what the bass note is... it would take ages to do that for a whole tune, but when you absolutely have to get every note right, it's worthwhile

sometimes i'll import the audio into Cubase SX and synchronise the tempo to the tune, to get an accurate tempo mark for the transcription... it's amazing how tempos drift even with bands with supposedly metronomic drummers.. importing into Cubase can also sometimes be useful if you have very silly polyrhythms to analyze... suppose you have a Zappa-esque guitar solo with an even group of 7 notes over 2 1/5 beats in a 3/4 tune... it can be hard to work out what's going on just by listening but if you synch the tempo and reconstruct what you hear using a VSTi in Cubase, often the graphical representation of the notes helps you get a grip on the polyrhythms... sometimes you have to make a judgement call on what the musician intended vs what they played sloppy... i.e. did they mean an eight note quintuplet or did they mean two eight notes followed by a triplet..? sometimes what someone plays is somewhere in the middle... deconstructing the exact timing in Cubase can help you there... but it's pretty hardcore and not usually needed...

for notation itself I use Sibelius, which is easy to navigate & very versatile once you get used to the note input system
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Quicktime will allow you to speed up/slow down a song as well as pitch shift it.
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