URGENT HELP!!!!!! TRANSCRIPTION

[efajardo90]

hi everybody, I was wondering if you people could help me.
I have to transcribe a solo (better to be a bass solo, but it is not necessary) for my studying. I have been thinking of Tal Wilkenfeld's most famous solo...

YouTube - Tal Wilkenfeld Solo


which would you recommend?

*bare in mind it is a jazz-related solo, not rock or blues. and that it is going to be played on a bass. So it should be playable.
thanks

[Snarf]

That's a fine solo to transcribe. I've always preferred transcribing guitar, piano, and sax though. It's easier to hear those instruments in a mix, plus they're capable of things that are extremely hard to do on bass, which makes you a better player by transcribing them.

[efajardo90]

could you suggest something, please?

[Rick Robins]

I love her solo on this particular clip.

Tal is soloing over

||: Cmin7 | AbMaj7 | Fmin7 | G7b9 :||

For the most part C blues scale, C Aeolian works. If you notice she keeps a bar chord type left hand form & slurs passing tones a lot moving to common tones between the chord changes.

Around the G7b9 add the B natural since G7b9 = G B D F Ab use a diminished idea in this spot.

At :14 she ascends back to C using the chord tones of the G7b9.

Have fun with it ..good luck.

[Snarf]

Originally Posted by efajardo90

could you suggest something, please?

You mean you don't have any music where you can pick a solo you like and transcribe it? That's part of the learning process, picking out something that catches your ear and writing it down.

[ThrashtillDeath]

Anestheia (Pulling Teeth) By Cliff Burton the whole track is just bass and drums, pretty easy to transcribe

[Rick Robins]

Efaj / trash You guys do know that Transcribe means a. To adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or instrument other than the original.

Efaj Improv if you can.

Find some trombone music to transcribe if you must transcribe.

[Snarf]

Originally Posted by Rick Robins

Efaj / trash You guys do know that Transcribe means a. To adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or instrument other than the original.

Efaj Improv if you can.

Find some trombone music to transcribe if you must transcribe.

You're confusing "transcribe" with "transpose."

Also, please don't do Anesthesia. Cliff Burton, while a good metal player, did not have a good grasp of harmony or technique or phrasing.

[bassix67]

Download the Amazing Slowdowner
And transcribe whatever you want. It will slow down any track without digital breakup. Then, take the good licks and
Transpose to all keys and change chord qualities.

[Rick Robins]

Originally Posted by Snarf

You're confusing "transcribe" with "transpose."

Also, please don't do Anesthesia. Cliff Burton, while a good metal player, did not have a good grasp of harmony or technique or phrasing.

@ me Ian?

If so i have been wrong for many years.

In music transposition refers to the process of moving a collection of notes (pitches) up or down in pitch by a constant interval. For example, one might transpose an entire piece of music into another key.
Say: Donna Lee Ab to Gb

Transcribe means to adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or instrument other than the original.

Say: Paganini's 4th Caprice from Violin to Electric bass.

Please clarify.

Also I agree Anesthesia not the best choice.

[bassix67]

Originally Posted by Rick Robins

@ me Ian?

If so i have been wrong for many years.

In music transposition refers to the process of moving a collection of notes (pitches) up or down in pitch by a constant interval. For example, one might transpose an entire piece of music into another key.
Say: Donna Lee Ab to Gb

Transcribe means to adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or instrument other than the original.

Say: Paganini's 4th Caprice from Violin to Electric bass.

Please clarify.

Also I agree Anesthesia not the best choice.

Transcribe means learning someone's solo or bass line etc; note for note or fragments of the chosen piece. It can be written or memorized.
Transpose means to change a solo, song or piece etc; to another key or clef.

[cire113]

her vibrato is nasty

[Snarf]

Originally Posted by Rick Robins

@ me Ian?

If so i have been wrong for many years.

In music transposition refers to the process of moving a collection of notes (pitches) up or down in pitch by a constant interval. For example, one might transpose an entire piece of music into another key.
Say: Donna Lee Ab to Gb

Transcribe means to adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or instrument other than the original.

Say: Paganini's 4th Caprice from Violin to Electric bass.

Please clarify.

Also I agree Anesthesia not the best choice.

Yeah, sorry, but your definition is unclear and non specific (as well as apparently copy-pasted out of an online dictionary). At least it is as far as a non-Classical usage of the term. I mean, if you're doing Paganini on the bass, you're going to be sight reading that anyway instead of writing it down for yourself. And you would in fact be transposing that because it's for a treble clef instrument. You could even get away with calling that an "arrangement," but certainly not a transcription, UNLESS you listened to a recording and wrote down what you heard.

So as far as a pop and jazz definition of the term "transcribe," yes, it seems you may have been wrong for said many years.

[Rick Robins]

Originally Posted by Snarf

Yeah, sorry, but your definition is unclear and non specific (as well as apparently copy-pasted out of an online dictionary). At least it is as far as a non-Classical usage of the term. I mean, if you're doing Paganini on the bass, you're going to be sight reading that anyway instead of writing it down for yourself. And you would in fact be transposing that because it's for a treble clef instrument. You could even get away with calling that an "arrangement," but certainly not a transcription, UNLESS you listened to a recording and wrote down what you heard.

So as far as a pop and jazz definition of the term "transcribe," yes, it seems you may have been wrong for said many years.

Copy & paste yes indeed but not Wiki & still after I read the definitions & the two explanation offered here I am unclear.

Transpose to me was to just to change the key of the entire piece.

Transcribe was to play another instruments part on mine. (bass of course) That was written in G clef. A guitar part, violin etc, etc. More complex pieces by reading but most by ear & writing down.

To play a bass line as I heard it or read it to me was just monkey see monkey do.

Apparently I missed something 20+ years ago in high school music class/band etc.

I also see you say Non-Clasical & pop and jazz definition of the term "transcribe. Maybe my confusion lies here.
If you would/could shoot me back some "For Dummies" example I would appreciate it.

[thesilence]

Originally Posted by Rick Robins

@ me Ian?

If so i have been wrong for many years.

In music transposition refers to the process of moving a collection of notes (pitches) up or down in pitch by a constant interval. For example, one might transpose an entire piece of music into another key.
Say: Donna Lee Ab to Gb

Transcribe means to adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or instrument other than the original.

Say: Paganini's 4th Caprice from Violin to Electric bass.

Please clarify.

Also I agree Anesthesia not the best choice.

3.Transcribe Music
a. To adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or instrument other than the original.
b. To translate (a composition) from one notational system to another.
c. To reduce (live or recorded music) to notation.

I'm pretty sure he is doing letter "c"

so although you were correct in your definition you were incorrect in what he is doing

[thesilence]

I think you should be listening for music that speaks to you and then transcribe that instead of asking talkbass for what you should do

[Cloverfield]

Transcribe any of Miles Davis' solos off of Kind of Blue. "So What" is a common albeit excellent choice.

[sammyp]

Originally Posted by bassix67

Transcribe means learning someone's solo or bass line etc; note for note or fragments of the chosen piece. It can be written or memorized.
Transpose means to change a solo, song or piece etc; to another key or clef.

i've always felt the technical definition of "transcribe" is to figure out the peice and commit it to written std notation ...in that case i transcribe very little sinse i either use tab or my memory LOL

[Cloverfield]

Originally Posted by sammyp

i've always felt the technical definition of "transcribe" is to figure out the peice and commit it to written std notation ...in that case i transcribe very little sinse i either use tab or my memory LOL

Yes, what you're doing isn't transcribing. Correct.