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Old 08-27-2007, 11:52 AM
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hearing a musician say he might give up really gets to me. i hate hearing that.
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plus i was gonna be in a band next month and they've just told me they've found someone else so i'm not needed, great.
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This is the 'paying your dues' stage of your development - and the payoffs are BIG (at least in enjoyment) for those who persevere. I agree about the Norm Stockton DVD series (I have all 4) - but you need to start with Vol 1 and progress through the series.

Like Steven Covey says in 7 Habits of Highly Effective People "BEGIN WITH THE END IN MIND". You don't get to skip to the end.

Paying the dues, learning basic theory, practicing scales and modes aren't the payoff they are a payment. And you learn some fun things along the way. Hang in there and you will surprise yourself sooner than you expect!
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Playing in a band with other musicians is what made me want to go further in music

And yeah, finding a good teacher, if you don't have one yet, might good as well
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hearing a musician say he might give up really gets to me. i hate hearing that.
I agree.

My advice is to get most out of your bass lessons. Find new ways of playing the same exercises, break up the rythmns, the use of rests and dead notes. Record every practice session. You probably do come up with good stuff when you noodle around. You just need to record and capture it on tape. Transcribe the stuff you like then use it in a different environment. Learn the melodys to some jazz standards. Listen to some Charlie Parker.
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plus i was gonna be in a band next month and they've just told me they've found someone else so i'm not needed, great.
so what? ive been through many bands. ive had bands ask me to join but then never speak to them again. its no big deal. i love music, i love playing bass. that wouldnt discourage me.
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plus i was gonna be in a band next month and they've just told me they've found someone else so i'm not needed, great.
Hey hardest thing to learn is music is a business and like applying for jobs you don't get them all and it isn't all about your skills. Just go out and find some others or do some auditions there are lots of people to play with. Then when you don't get the gig use it to your advantage ask yourself why but don't beat yourself up. I didn't know the style well enough. I didn't pickup on the songs fast enough. I talked too much, too little. My sound wasn't right. Don't forget they didn't know what they were looking for. They wanted someone exactly like <fill in the blank> and that isn't me. You need to read them too... They appeared to already have make a decison, but let me audition anyway. They were all into a "Look" or style and I'm not that. If really concerned ask around see if someonen might of heard who got the gig you might find out they gave it to a friend so you had no chance unless you blew the doors off the jams. You have to have a feel for who your dealing with but sometimes you can ask why you didn't get it.

This is the music and you're going to be going after gigs all the time and get some and not get a lot, you can't take it personal. If you haven't figured it out by now muscians are a strange lot so reasons for getting and not getting gigs for most part never make a lot of sense. There are great musicians that are great friends but won't play with each other because for some reason musically they don't click. There are musicians, singers, managers who all have some "Vision" of what they need and you don't fit. Learn from each audition or jam what you can, do what you need to improve, and keep on playing.

The only other option is to just play for yourself or have music as a hobby. The bad side of that is many may not like playing with you for musical or other reasons. The great part who gives a dam. Some of the best Jazz players are ones that play for a hobby. They don't have to worry about paying the bills so not afraid to live on the cutting edge musically.
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