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ics1974 02-08-2013 01:24 PM

What are "the boxes" ?
 
What are "the boxes" everyone keeps talking about. Are you talking about the pentatonic scale?

Lowactnsatsfctn 02-08-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ics1974 (Post 13851048)
Are you talking about the pentatonic scale?

Pretty much.


This should clear it up some
http://scottsbasslessons.com/bass-li...s-on-bass.html

ics1974 02-08-2013 01:36 PM

ok that is different from this box I found here.
http://www.guitarnoise.com/lessons/the-box/


MalcolmAmos 02-08-2013 01:42 PM

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/music-...ue/Scales.html
Here is what I use. Notice my boxes have scale degree numbers instead of just dots.

And I use the major scale box as my go to box and then adapt, i.e. if I want the major pentatonic scale I just leave out the 4 and 7. Google bass scale patterns. Box patterns are generic. Want the C major scale hunt for a C note on your fretboard and then place the box's R on that C note. Want the G major scale place the R on a G note - 3rd or 4th string.

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Bass Patterns based upon the Major Scale box.

Major Scale Box.
Code:
G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string
Basic Chords
• Major Triad = R-3-5
• Minor Triad = R-b3-5
• Diminished Chord = R-b3-b5
7th Chords
• Maj7 = R-3-5-7
• Minor 7 = R-b3-5-b7
• Dominant 7 = R-3-5-b7
• ½ diminished = R-b3-b5-b7
• Full diminished = R-b3-b5-bb7
See a chord and play it's chord tones. As every key will have three major, three minor and one diminished chord it's a good idea to get your major, minor and diminished bass line chord tones into muscle memory so when you see a chord your fingers just know what will work. Now the song may only give you enough room for the root, or root five - adapt and get as many chord tones into your bass line as needed. Root on 1 and a steady groove from the other chord tones plus something to call attention to the chord change will keep you gigging.

Scales
• Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7 Home base
• Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6 Leave out the 4 & 7
• Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 Major scale with the 3, 6 & 7 flatted.
• Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7 Leave out the 2 & 6.
• Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7 Minor pentatonic with the blue note b5 added.
• Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7 Natural minor with a natural 7.
• Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7 Major scale with a b3.
Let the major scale be your home base then change a few notes and you have something different. No need to memorize a zillion patterns. Let the major scale pattern be your go to pattern - then adapt/adjust from there.

Generic Notes - for your bass line.
• The root, five and eight are generic and fit most any chord. Remember the diminished has a flatted 5.
• The 3 is generic to all major chords. So R-3-5-3 will fit under any major chord.
• The b3 is generic to all minor chords. And R-b3-5-8 will fit under any minor chord. Why the 8? Well the 8 is just another root in the next octave.
• The 7 is generic to all maj7 chords. Yep, R-3-5-7 fits nicely.
• The b7 is generic to all dominant seventh and minor seventh chords. G7 = R-3-5-b7 or Gm7 = R-b3-5-b7.
• The 6 is neutral and adds color, help yourself to 6’s. Love the sound of R-3-5-6 with a major chord.
• The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Don’t linger on them or stop on them, keep them passing.
• In making your bass line help yourself to those notes, just use them correctly.
Roots, fives, eights and the correct 3 & 7 will play a lot of bass.

Lowactnsatsfctn 02-08-2013 01:47 PM

That's over complicating a major scale. (The OP's link)

The "box" on that sites lesson isn't very clear about what the notes are in relation to the chord. its just saying play this shape and you'll be safe.
Id avoid that site, check these out. The layout of the site is easy to use, and the lessons are in better order.

http://www.studybass.com/

http://scottsbasslessons.com/

ics1974 02-08-2013 02:52 PM

I was just curious that's all. I usually stick to chord tones and add in whatever other note sounds right.


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