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Old 01-20-2002, 01:55 PM
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I'm going to write down chord charts of some songs a guitar player and I wrote. There's a chord which goes like this (TAbZ):

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e|-1- (5)
B|-1- (9)
G|-2- (7)
D|-2- (b5 / #4?)
A|-1- (R)
E|---
...and it sounds really cool in the song, but my knowledge in music theory is severely lacking so I have no idea what to write on the chart?
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Old 01-20-2002, 02:31 PM
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I'd call it a maj7(#11), voiced without the 3rd. But I'm sure there are other ways to look at it....
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Thanks, Blinky! I thought you might reply to this.

Maj7(#11) it is. When I think of it, I invoke the major 3rd to Bb (D) in my bass line, which would make it a Bbmaj7(#11) then, and not some minmaj or no3 chord... am I right?

It's not that important, but it might need a correct name if we were to audition a keyboard player.
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Old 01-20-2002, 03:28 PM
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Well, you don't have to play the third. What I would do is try the major third against the chord and make sure that you're still getting the sound you want.... if that's the case, you're playing the maj7(#11) chord, just chosing to voice it without the 3rd.

If the 3rd doesn't clash, the keyboardist can chose to play it or not.
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Old 01-20-2002, 05:26 PM
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This is a longshot, but you could call it Fmaj7/Bb.. The four upper notes form a Fmaj7 - voiced a little odd, but still. If i was writing the chart, I would try to see what function the chord has in the tune, and describe it in the way that makes more sense, in the key, and so on.

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If i was writing the chart, I would try to see what function the chord has in the tune, and describe it in the way that makes more sense, in the key, and so on.
I don't know how to describe the function of it, or pick a proper key signature. See, the entire chord sequence is this:

Dm9 | Dm9 | C#7(#9) | C#7(#9) | C7(#9) | C7(#9) | Bb | Bbm
Am | Am | xxx | xxx | C#m | C#m | C | C | Bsus4 | Bsus4 | B | B

...where xxx is the chord I'm asking about. I *think* the other chords have their proper names.

It's a stick in an instrumental tune which otherwise goes in the key of A minor. But even I can see that the above sequence isn't all in A minor...
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Old 01-20-2002, 08:14 PM
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Just my .02-
The 'low' note(in this case, a Bb)doesn't have to be the ROOT, right?
Thinking like a pianist, just suppose those notes(Bb-E-A-C-F)were being played by the right hand...now, what note(s) can the left hand play to achive the sound you're desiring?
(I doubt a pianist would use all those notes).

Personally, if the guitarist omitted the Bb note & allowed the bassist to play it...?
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