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09-20-2008, 09:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan | | | What has helped you the most in advancing?
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Besides practing. I mean learning scales, intervals, just playing with others, method books. I would like to hear from the guys who have been playing for a while what has helped them the most? or even the least? If you could go back in time and tell yourself what to work on....what would it be? Or what do you wish you would have done early on? | 
09-20-2008, 10:00 PM
|  | I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize! | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada | | | Playing with others, I really wish I had started earlier. I can't emphasis enough how much this helped me. | 
09-20-2008, 10:03 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio | | | I'd say that playing with other musicians that are better than me really challenged me to get better and taught me how to play in a group setting. It helped me know my role as a bassist, since I was a guitarist for so long before I picked up the bass, and by working with such knowledgeable musicians I've learned a lot about theory and song structure. I'd still be listening to the same old music which never really challenged my ear at all but since I've met and played with my present band I've begun listening to different styles of music and have picked up some different influences that have changed my style of playing a little bit.
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09-20-2008, 10:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland Oregon | | | Playing with real people..like a drummer and a guitarist and a pianist.....there is no replacement for experience....
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09-20-2008, 10:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I been everywhere, man... | | | In addition to the aforementioned advice to play with people and drummers in particular, the most effective learning aid for me has been transcribing, copying, and assimilating grooves, solos, approaches, and styles from other players who are masters of the art of playing the bass. Doing this allows you to observe how great players react to the music and helps in developing your ear.
I've also found that really digging to composition, song structure, and harmony will help your bass playing in big ways.
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09-20-2008, 10:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Georgia | | | Not only playing with others, but playing with others that are above your skill level.
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09-20-2008, 10:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | Besides playing with other learning to stop running scales, arp's, and tech exercises and as soon as I got them under my finders to start trying to make music with them. As one of my fave old teachers would say... See It, Feel It, Make It Your Own!!!!
To become a musician you have to practice playing music.
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09-20-2008, 10:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boca Raton, Florida | | | Crossing out the tablature and reading music. Listening through the chord changes and identifying the most economical way to approach the riff. Tapping my foot on the quarter notes.
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09-20-2008, 10:57 PM
|  | that video LIES | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | | Playing w/a very good but manic-depressive drummer. One day he loved me; the next, I didn't exist. It was difficult but I grew a lot in a short period of time. I also wouldn't suggest it specifically, but it is good to play w/better musicians than yourself(IME).
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09-20-2008, 10:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO | | | 2 things:
gigs
a good instructor | 
09-20-2008, 11:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Seattle | | | Gatorade. Lots of it. The green kind. | 
09-21-2008, 05:28 AM
| | | | For me, and I've been playing a long time, it was getting instructional materials from Carol Kaye and practicing exactly as she says to do it. It requires lots of self discipline. I got more of a musical education in workable music theory from her materials than I did from any other books or DVDs I've tried over the years. I've never found a teacher for private lessons that could teach me as well. Scales and modes don't do it for me. I've been through all that. You have to really learn chord theory and the proper fingerings and note choices.
Secondly, playing with good musicians is a must. You can't get very good playing with hacks and it'll drive you nuts in the end. Good musicians, preferable as good as or better than you, with a professional attitude and no screwing around with the whole sex-drugs-rock and roll party time approach will really keep you on your toes. | 
09-21-2008, 06:56 AM
| | | | Learn to read! PRACTICE, find the best teacher! PRACTICE, play everything that you can!
PRACTICE, alway try to play with people who you consider to be better than you!
Oh did I say PRACTICE! listen to other instruments in all styles of music, assimilate everthing. Understand music theory, it is better to understand why a scale works than to be able to play the scale at a 1000 mph. lastly armed with this aim to play what is appropriate for the song/style you wish to play. - Good luck! | 
09-21-2008, 07:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dover Delaware | | Quote:
Originally Posted by seanm Playing with others, I really wish I had started earlier. I can't emphasis enough how much this helped me. | Hands down, without peer, barre none......yes yes yes!
like running on a speed walk at the airport, it just makes it happen so much more quickly.
The better the people you are playing with, the better your improvement potential.
Of course, you have the obligation to practice and learn in preparation of rehearsal. | 
09-21-2008, 07:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Barrie, Ontario | | | Playing with others and diet pepsi.
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Oh, and practise. | 
09-21-2008, 07:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lowell/Amesbury Massachusetts | | | practicing more obediently.
sitting down with a bass playing whatever my heart desires for 2 hours is not practice. | 
09-21-2008, 07:56 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati | | | +1 to playing with others. Beyond that, playing gigs. Nothing gets your mind going than performing for an audience.
Dr. Suzuki (of Suzuki string method fame) says, "Practice every day you eat". Good advice. AND have a goal when you practice. Don't just do what you did yesterday. Have something that you are working on to get better. Make it a goal that you can reach... and reach it. Lots and lots of small goals lead to success. One large goal is just an excuse for not working.
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09-21-2008, 10:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Paris | | | Playing with others especially good drummers.
Metronome at home.
Really listening both at home, in rehearsal and in performance
Meditation
Eating properly | 
09-22-2008, 02:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Finland | | | - Realizing I need to practice to get anywhere.
- Realizing the importance of timing, and how true this statement is: "if you can't play it well at a slow tempo, you can't play it well fast either".
- Playing with new people, not just the same old band I played with almost exclusively for 7 years.
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09-22-2008, 02:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hamilton Ontario, (60miles wes | | | Believing in myself and believing that if I could play something once I could play it 1,000 times. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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