What have I missed in the last 10 years or so?

[reverendrally]

Hi all,

For all sorts of reasons it looks like I'm coming back to seriously teaching bass again after about seven years out of the game. So my question is, what have I missed? I mean it's not like I've been living in Siberia, but I haven't been playing or listening to bass players in quite the same way as I used to. I heard Tal Wickenfeld (interesting but no Jaco) and Nath from the fooies, but is there anyone else I should be aware of that's popped up on the scene?

Any help here would be appreciated.

Pete

[onlyclave]

Well, it turns out that you need to learn modes and nothing else. Sometime in the last decade it was decided that learning modes is more important than anything else, not functional harmony, not ear training, not even reading actual music notation.

If you can't play modes you are clearly a chump.

[reverendrally]

you are joking right?

[nothumb]

judging by 80% of the posts in this forum he's actually not far off.

i think the problem is a bunch of people start trying to learn modes before they even understand how keys work and how notes and chords fit together within them. that's really the only explanation i have for how baffled people seem to be by a relatively simple concept.

[reverendrally]

would I be right in thinking that some pretty serious google mechanics were involved in their "tuition"?

[DudeistMonk]

Originally Posted by reverendrally

would I be right in thinking that some pretty serious google mechanics were involved in their "tuition"?

If you mean players are researching bang vs. buck yeah probably, but its clear for reading posts here that tuitions vary based on location and instructor. The guitar player teaching bass at Sam Ash is probably charging 30 an hour...My guy charges $45 but he is well qualified, holds degrees and whatnot and is primarily a bassist.

[reedo35]

Fergie, He's talking about teaching Bass, not buying new equipment to get back on the scene.
Oh, he deleted while I was typing. Now I look stupid..

[reedo35]

And yes rev, there are a lot of " players" here that went to "Internet U" for a variety of reasons. But it's preety easy to tell which is which.

[reverendrally]

to clarify - "google mechanic" = someone who's knowledge/experience is limited to finding the answer via google

we have heaps of that sort on some car forums that I'm a member on.

Re modes, if you know a major scale, you already know every mode anyhow. The rest is just which degree you start on and the like. I really don't know what all the fuss is about. And all this modal stuff happened back in the 80s with guitarplayers. Richie Satri-vai or some other guy would say, "you can't be a real guitar ace until you can play the balinese mixolocrilodian scale over 6 octaves a 400bpm". Which is just crap of course (scuse the french).

I guess I'm trying to figure out if there are some NEW trends (like emo) that have new players that I don't about and what to listen out for.

[cnltb]

Originally Posted by onlyclave

Well, it turns out that you need to learn modes and nothing else. Sometime in the last decade it was decided that learning modes is more important than anything else, not functional harmony, not ear training, not even reading actual music notation.

If you can't play modes you are clearly a chump.

It's sorry times that make me think I'll second this.

[Stumbo]

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