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06-03-2005, 12:30 PM
| | I will not slap my Bee! | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Arendal, Norway | | | whats the idea of a scale?
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hiya
right now cant get the idea of scales, chords etc. ,how does it works and affect my musicianship. When i see some scale charts and stuff, im getting confused... i.e.Am7, Cm7, E7 and so on. at the moment im working on some riff, but i cant be satisfied with them. buddies of mine keeps talking about scales and stuff, but cant get the idea and how it works
thanks for replies
best regards
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06-03-2005, 03:42 PM
| | | | Find a good bass teacher. There's no substitute for that. | 
06-03-2005, 03:48 PM
| | | | Do I still need a bass teacher if I've been playing saxophone for 6 years? (taught by band teachers?) Like I think i can figure out this instrument on my own... I think i got a fairly good understanding of music theory or at least where to look for it...
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06-03-2005, 04:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa, ON | | | If you have to ask, then, yes, you need a teacher. | 
06-03-2005, 04:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Central Illinois | | This statement... Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jiro I think i got a fairly good understanding of music theory or at least where to look for it... | and this statement... Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jiro right now cant get the idea of scales, chords etc. ,how does it works and affect my musicianship. When i see some scale charts and stuff, im getting confused... | are contradictory Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jiro Do I still need a bass teacher if I've been playing saxophone for 6 years? (taught by band teachers?) Like I think i can figure out this instrument on my own... | If you've been taking lessons for six years and don't have the basics of scales, chords, etc... down, find a different teacher.
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06-03-2005, 05:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Zealand | | | The White keys on a piano/keyboard, is the C Major Scale.
Learn and understand the C Major Scale. | 
06-03-2005, 07:10 PM
| | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Scotland | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jonki hiya
right now cant get the idea of scales, chords etc. ,how does it works and affect my musicianship. When i see some scale charts and stuff, im getting confused... i.e.Am7, Cm7, E7 and so on. at the moment im working on some riff, but i cant be satisfied with them. buddies of mine keeps talking about scales and stuff, but cant get the idea and how it works
thanks for replies
best regards
from a confused Jonki |
A scale is a bunch of notes that sound good together in a simple tune. A chord is a selection of these notes that sound good together at a certain point in that tune. | 
06-03-2005, 07:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa, ON | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by cb56 This statement...
and this statement...
are contradictory | It's possible that they are from two different people. | 
06-03-2005, 07:51 PM
|  | Moderator Endorsing Artist: Levy's Leathers Moderator | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto/Niagara Falls, Ontario | | | No one can EVER know everything about theory. No matter how much you try. There is just so much of it to all take it. Sure you can figure it out np, but that's different. I've been playing flute for 10 years. I got bass lessons 2 years ago, thinking i knew alot about theory. I didn't even know the formula to a minor scale! | 
06-03-2005, 08:13 PM
| | | | Thanks, CB56...
Yeah, talk about a non sequitur. They do seem to be two different people, but that doesn't make the second one's response any more relevant.
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06-04-2005, 08:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The black hole of Cygnus X-1 | | | In essence, scalar theory revolves around the major scale. Everything stems off this. It is recommended to memorize triads and 7ths. Memorize the relative minor (aka natural minor; all minor scales revolve around this scale) for each major key, instantly know the mediant and dominant of EVERY key, then proceed to do "runs" all up and down your neck, intertwining notes in various registers, practicing inversions.
Then study the modes! Memorize the fingering and the practical use of each mode. Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian, Locrian (dim.) are utilized and manipulated when a minor is needed. Ionian, Lydian and Mixolydian are major modes. You must have an awareness of scale degrees to use this information to its fullest. When do you use which one? Study...you'll discover the answer.
Theory flash cards are a great tool and you'll feel your knowledge in theory expanding daily.
There is a ton of info on this site and you can do a search to find the information you need. | 
06-04-2005, 11:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Central Illinois | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by jadesmar It's possible that they are from two different people. | DOH!!!
My bad!!! 
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