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05-19-2011, 02:45 PM
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does anyone know of a site where i can print the notes on the neck, like those posters that have a photo of the neck with all the notes written on it? i dont know any of that stuff. | 
05-19-2011, 02:52 PM
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Or, try this; sit down, draw up a chart, and write them all out yourself. Then make separate charts for any (or all or all) of the scales. Old Skool admittedly, but the mental processing you'll go through vs. clicking the Print button can be a valuable learning aid.
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05-19-2011, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Philonius Or, try this; sit down, draw up a chart, and write them all out yourself. Then make separate charts for any (or all or all) of the scales. | What timing - just did this in Excel for the major and natural/harmonic/melodic scales so that I could see the difference between the bass and violin. The exercise was really worth the effort. I just hope that I did it right. 
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05-20-2011, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Stumbo | perfect! | 
05-20-2011, 10:22 PM
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There are 12 notes. Starting on C, it goes C, C#/Db, D, D#/Eb, E, F, F#/Gb, G, G#/Ab, A, A#/Bb, B, and then back to the octave of C.
Going from one of these notes to the next (For instance, C to C#) is one half step. Each fret on your instrument will raise the note one half step.
So, an E string will produce an E note when hit open. If you fret the first step, it moves that up a half step. E has no sharp, so you go up to F. Then if I go up one more to the second step, it's an F# (or a Gb, they're the same pitch).
use the fretboard diagram if you need it for reading music immediately. But wean yourself from it and start counting up the fretboard. Eventually you'll learn to recognize certain spaces. 12th fret is an octave, 5th fret is a fourth up (the same pitch as the next string). 7th fret is a fifth of the root note, or an octave of the note below it. But you should learn these yourself first -- but keep the fretboard diagram handy in case you get stuck.
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05-21-2011, 06:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: westland, michigan | | | yes, i wanted to "see" the notes on the neck to be able to look at the patterns and see if the patterns would help me memorize things. so there is no such things as E# or Fb. | 
05-21-2011, 06:26 AM
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Fretboard diagramming link on page. Plus lots of other good stuff. | 
05-21-2011, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nutdog | +1....and it lets you pick your number of strings and tuning....I was gonna ask Stumbo where the other string was!! 
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05-21-2011, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lowendfriend +1....and it lets you pick your number of strings and tuning....I was gonna ask Stumbo where the other string was!!  | that link is great! thanks!!! | 
05-23-2011, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by maskedman72 yes, i wanted to "see" the notes on the neck to be able to look at the patterns and see if the patterns would help me memorize things. so there is no such things as E# or Fb. | I've heard people refer to an F as an E# in certain instances with certain keys. In general, however, E# and Fb do not exist. ou will simply jump from E to F.
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05-23-2011, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by oniman7 I've heard people refer to an F as an E# in certain instances with certain keys. In general, however, E# and Fb do not exist. ou will simply jump from E to F. | Yes, they do exist, as do B# and Cb. They're just not very common. You need to know this to be able to make sense of particular scales and keys. But a beginner probably doesn't need to know this right away.  And let's not get into double flats and sharps....
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05-23-2011, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by oniman7 I've heard people refer to an F as an E# in certain instances with certain keys. In general, however, E# and Fb do not exist. ou will simply jump from E to F. | Even tho it's rare, It is important to understand when and why you would call the note an E# instead of an F, or an Fb instead of an E.
It's the same reason why you choose to name a note F#vs Gb , or C# vs Db ...or any enharmonic note over the other.
The basic reason depends on what key your in. In any single key you will have only 7 "named" notes, and Each letter gets used only once.
So for example the key of D major has the notes :
D E F# G A B C#
Even tho the C# and the F# could also be called Db and Gb, if you did that, It would break this rule:
D E Gb G A B Db
now ya got 2 D's and 2 G's but no C or F....which looks really bad and hard to follow if notated.
You would use E# instead of F in any key that already uses an F#, and Fb instead of E for any key the already uses an Eb. These keys are uncommon, as mentioned. | 
05-23-2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mambo4 Even tho it's rare, It is important to understand when and why you would call the note an E# instead of an F, or an Fb instead of an E.
It's the same reason why you choose to name a note F#vs Gb , or C# vs Db ...or any enharmonic note over the other.
So for example the key of D major has the notes :
D E F# G A B C#
Even tho the C# and the F# could also be called Db and Gb, if you did that, It would break this rule:The basic reason depends on what key your in. In any single key you will have only 7 "named" notes, and Each letter gets used only once.
D E Gb G A B Db
now ya got 2 D's and 2 G's but no C or F....which looks really bad and hard to follow if notated.
You would use E# instead of F in any key that already uses an F#, and Fb instead of E for any key the already uses an Eb. These keys are uncommon, as mentioned. | That right there is the most bestest explanation ever! In classical music you often encounter these notes, like E #....and I always wondered WHY! Your explanation makes total sense. | 
05-23-2011, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mambo4 Even tho it's rare, It is important to understand when and why you would call the note an E# instead of an F, or an Fb instead of an E.
It's the same reason why you choose to name a note F#vs Gb , or C# vs Db ...or any enharmonic note over the other.
The basic reason depends on what key your in. In any single key you will have only 7 "named" notes, and Each letter gets used only once.
So for example the key of D major has the notes :
D E F# G A B C#
Even tho the C# and the F# could also be called Db and Gb, if you did that, It would break this rule:
D E Gb G A B Db
now ya got 2 D's and 2 G's but no C or F....which looks really bad and hard to follow if notated.
You would use E# instead of F in any key that already uses an F#, and Fb instead of E for any key the already uses an Eb. These keys are uncommon, as mentioned. | Thanks! This is a great explanation for something I had been wondering. However, I didn't feel a beginner needed to get into all of that.
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This was posted by a TB'er
I'd like to give credit...but I can't remember who it was!!!
Please let me know..awsome job
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