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07-21-2009, 02:04 PM
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My belief is that you can apply theory without understanding it. Just as you can understand theory without the ability to apply it. There are a lot of talented and very good bass players out there that don't understand theory or even really give 2 ***** about it. They are still slaves to it as the rest of us are.
When you understand the application of your ability to play (or talent) and practice and refine that true art, AND you learn AND apply theory and integrate it with your talent or skill set on the fingerboard, you have just passed GO on the way to mastering your instrument. True masters spin a lot of plates at once, making them all appear effortless. Thats why you can listen to an amazing artist (or master if you will) play something that makes you go wow, and then listen to them explaining technically what they did, and it flows from them with the same seemingly natural effort as their playing. Owning your instrument, and owning the mastery of it are 2 totally different things. The best players strive for mastery every day, it is a journey, and not a destination. IMHO.
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07-21-2009, 02:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah | | | Ok, but who's wrong?
We need to know who's wrong here! | 
07-21-2009, 02:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mid Atlantic | | | Get online and buy Scott Hendersons DVD on theory and phrasing, it is brillant. I had both on VHS and repurchased them on DVD - yes they are that good. I have a degree from Berklee and next to taking lessons with a really heavy jazz guy/gal these DVDs are it. Then get out the Real Book and record some walking bass lines and solo over them. I have some Abersold cd's which are cool as well, but you cant mess with tempo and feel let a lone change the key. Play with other people every chance you get and transcribe, transcribe, transcribe....... Best of Luck. | 
07-21-2009, 02:35 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ | | | Originally posted by Ed Fuqua (in the thread where should I go in theory next?)
So, that's "No", then?
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07-21-2009, 02:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | Sorry to derail and all, but seeing that your user name is Jojabeau and seeing that I, at one time, was a Jojaboy (Augusta GA in actual fack), and seeing that you taught at Berklee and seeing that I, at one time, went to Berklee, I must axe - who all are you?
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07-21-2009, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Case | That guy in te middle doesn't look like me at all. | 
07-21-2009, 03:25 PM
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07-21-2009, 03:31 PM
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07-21-2009, 03:50 PM
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07-21-2009, 04:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY | | Ed,
I enjoyed that Jon Raney link. Thanks for posting.
Joe
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07-21-2009, 04:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | You're welcome. I'm hoping that some of the last studio stuff we did with Eliot is going to be available soon, that session was almost a year ago.
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07-21-2009, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Moe is their leader. | But not for me (as played by Chet Baker, of course) | 
07-21-2009, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Case Ok, but who's wrong?
We need to know who's wrong here! | All of us, for hijacking the OP's thread and turning it into this esoteric discussion.
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07-21-2009, 08:21 PM
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07-22-2009, 01:42 PM
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