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08-28-2005, 12:50 PM
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how do you do a whole step from the G string to the E string?
in standard tuning? I'm just working on my patterns for major scale.
I know down a string is just back 3 frets.... like from 5 on E to 2 on A... but Im not sure how to go from say a root at G on the D string and use the E and A strings aswell.
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08-28-2005, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MCBTunes how do you do a whole step from the G string to the E string?
in standard tuning? I'm just working on my patterns for major scale.
I know down a string is just back 3 frets.... like from 5 on E to 2 on A... but Im not sure how to go from say a root at G on the D string and use the E and A strings aswell. | I'd like to help you, but I have no idea what you are talking about. The distance you are asking about is not a whole step; it is 4 whole steps and one 1/2 step. | 
08-28-2005, 04:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Martensville, Sask | | | what.... I must be confused then....
Say G is the root, 3rd fret on E..... you play whole to the 5th,
then whole... you can either go to B(2nd fret A)(which is what I was talking about or B(7th fret E).
right?
Now to what I was asking....
Say your starting the scale on the D string. Still Lets make it an E(2nd fret)... lets go whole to 4, then whole to 1 on G, then half to 2, then whole to 4, and whole to 6, now is there any way for this pattern to take me back up to the E string without continueing on G? 6 on G is C# which on E is the 9th fret.... any way I can tie that togeather? Now that I think about it a little trial and error with different starting places would help me out here. But any help is still appreciated
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08-28-2005, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MCBTunes how do you do a whole step from the G string to the E string?
in standard tuning? I'm just working on my patterns for major scale.
I know down a string is just back 3 frets.... like from 5 on E to 2 on A... but Im not sure how to go from say a root at G on the D string and use the E and A strings aswell. | Could you post up a diagram that illustrates exactly your query.
I'll try and help. No promises though. | 
08-28-2005, 06:20 PM
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D--------3--
A-----6-----
E-----------
Thats the pattern for going forward a whole step when dropping down a string.... go down and move back 3.
Now....
G------6-----
D-----------
A-----------
E-----------
Now instead of Moving a whole step to 8 on G.... is there anyway to "memorize" where the next note would be on the E string instead of staying on the G....
Like a little.... 3 strings up and 3 notes over deal(as an example) without knowing the note.
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08-28-2005, 08:22 PM
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From what I can tell, you want to go from a C#(On the G string) to a G on the E-string.
this thread is giving me a headache...  | 
08-28-2005, 08:25 PM
|  | Mr Sumisu 2 U Developer: iGigBook® | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Peoples Republic of Brooklyn | | | MCBTunes, why not just list the individual notes that you want to play? | 
08-28-2005, 08:25 PM
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here's the formula for a Major scale:
Whole Step
Whole Step
Half Step
Whole Step
Whole Step
Whole Step
Half Step | 
08-28-2005, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MCBTunes G-----------
D--------3--
A-----6-----
E-----------
Thats the pattern for going forward a whole step when dropping down a string.... go down and move back 3.
Now....
G------6-----
D-----------
A-----------
E-----------
Now instead of Moving a whole step to 8 on G.... is there anyway to "memorize" where the next note would be on the E string instead of staying on the G....
Like a little.... 3 strings up and 3 notes over deal(as an example) without knowing the note. |
G------6-----
D-----------
A-----------
E-----------
To
G------8-----
D-----------
A-----------
E-----------
Instead of playing the whole step on the next string, just move two frets over. 
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08-28-2005, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MCBTunes G-----------
D--------3--
A-----6-----
E-----------
Thats the pattern for going forward a whole step when dropping down a string.... go down and move back 3. | I don't understand why you refer to this as a "whole step". It is not. | 
08-28-2005, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Turock I don't understand why you refer to this as a "whole step". It is not. | .. Yes it is o_0
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08-28-2005, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Whafrodamus Instead of playing the whole step on the next string, just move two frets over.  | He wants to play that on the E-string, only using one whole step. I still have yet to figure out if he means an octive or not:\ | 
08-28-2005, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Whafrodamus .. Yes it is o_0 | Yes, you're right. I've mis-read the whole idea. When he said "like from 5 on E to 2 on A... " I was thinking of the A-note on the d-string at the 2nd fret. In his next post, I thought he was still saying the same thing. Sorry, I should have read more closely. | 
08-28-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Geddy_Lee He wants to play that on the E-string, only using one whole step. I still have yet to figure out if he means an octive or not:\ | Ooh. This is confusing.
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08-28-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Turock Yes, you're right. I've mis-read the whole idea. When he said "like from 5 on E to 2 on A... " I was thinking of the A-note on the d-string at the 2nd fret. In his next post, I thought he was still saying the same thing. Sorry, I should have read more closely. | It's all good. We all misread things.
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08-28-2005, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MCBTunes Say G is the root, 3rd fret on E..... you play whole to the 5th,
then whole... you can either go to B(2nd fret A)(which is what I was talking about or B(7th fret E).
right? | MCBTunes,
This is the only part of your thread that I really follow and understand.
E string 3rd fret = G
E string 5th fret = A
E string 7th fret = B AND A string 2nd fret = B
G to A = whole step
A to B = whole step
If I were playing, I would play the B on the 2nd fret of the A string (in most situations). I would not play the B on the 7th fret of the E string.
That's as far as I can get with your thread. Sorry.
Joe
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08-28-2005, 10:41 PM
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You want to be able to play a note on the G string and find the note a whole step above it somewhere on the E string? To play a unison (like the G string, open, and the same note on the E) you need to play the note on the E string 15 frets higher than the one on the G string to make them the same. Open G == 15th fret on the E. 1st fret on G == 16th fret on E. And so on. And to play the next note up, you just add two frets to that.
Is that what you were asking?
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08-29-2005, 12:13 AM
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G-----2-4-6-7-9-11-13-14
D---
A---
E---
Now, what I wanted was to instead of playing all the notes down the G string was to say... instead of going to the 7 or 6 on G move up to the E string and play downward instead of across..... and I'm looking for a "trick" orpattern to do so.
6 fret on G = C#
9 fret on E = C#
correct? I just want to turn it into a pattern so I dont need to think about the note so much before I play it. I know, I'm a dirty rotten scoundrel.
I know when playing the scales there are multiple ways of playing the scale. SO I figured instead of playing all the notes on the G string I would beable to move up to the E. I dont know every note of every scale, and I didnt even have the fretboard totally memorized yet. So, I like patterns  .
Just dont turn this into a "patterns are bad" thread.
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08-29-2005, 12:36 AM
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You want to figure out how to play a major scale up and/or down one string. Right?
Joe
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08-29-2005, 12:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY | | | If you want to play a G Major scale up the E string:
Frets: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15
Notes: G, A, B, C, D, E, F#, G
I have never really played a scale in this way...
Hope this helps.
Joe
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