why was jeff berlin banned?

keyscaptain · #1 05-17-2010, 09:35 AM

why was Jeff Berlin banned? any ideas? He was one of the more useful people on this site. his info was very helpful... Anyone have any ideas?

bongomania · #2 05-17-2010, 09:39 AM

If you actually read the threads it should be obvious. Did you not see the flame wars that erupted in nearly every thread he posted in? (IMO Berlin holds only 50% or less of the blame for that though.) Also he openly disrespected the mods, which is against the rules here.

keyscaptain · #3 05-17-2010, 09:42 AM

and Ken SMith is gone too! I was just informed he was banned. does that mean that anyone with a unique personality that doesn't fit the mold is done away with?

bongomania · #4 05-17-2010, 09:43 AM

So which one are you, Ken or Jeff?

Rickett Customs · #5 05-17-2010, 09:43 AM

Ken was perma banned some time last year.

jdwinva · #6 05-17-2010, 09:44 AM

I do not know Jeff, but from everything I have read it appears that he does not possess the filtering mechanism that most humans have that keeps every thought from being verbalized. I know some of you appreciate his commentary and I have agreed with him on occasion but Jeff has never met a thought he did not want to share.

keyscaptain · #7 05-17-2010, 09:44 AM

maybe this is the wrong thread to have this in, but I saw Jeff's thread in here so I just put it here. There are lot's of pro bassists that are like Jeff, why should they have to hide who or what they are in order to share their knowledge is kind of a question to me as well.

keyscaptain · #8 05-17-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

So which one are you, Ken or Jeff?

neither I am afraid. but a fan of both! I am a TB newbie, but I hang more on boards like ebassist, HC, or musician central usually.

Rickett Customs · #9 05-17-2010, 09:46 AM

I can see this thread closing as well, honestly.

keyscaptain · #10 05-17-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickett Customs

I can see this thread closing as well, honestly.

why though?

are we not allowed to raise questions on this site?

**Eric Perry** · #11 05-17-2010, 09:52 AM

I didn't know Jeff got banned. All the threads that I read seemed to be going rather well from Jeff's end. That's disappointing to me.

Smith on the other hand...

**Eric Perry** · #12 05-17-2010, 09:53 AM

Also, why does it say Last Activity: 12-01-2001? Were all of his recent threads and posts wiped???

bongomania · #13 05-17-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by keyscaptain

I am a TB newbie, but I hang more on boards like ebassist, HC, or musician central usually.

Ah, that explains it. Those boards allow a lot more incivility, flaming, and trolling than this one does.

Rickett Customs · #14 05-17-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by keyscaptain

why though?

are we not allowed to raise questions on this site?

When it comes to question of the actions of a moderator, these a "Case closed" and a preferred to be taken to PM. These are rules that are not an exception to anyone here.

SteveC · #15 05-17-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jdwinva

I do not know Jeff, but from everything I have read it appears that he does not possess the filtering mechanism that most humans have that keeps every thought from being verbalized. I know some of you appreciate his commentary and I have agreed with him on occasion but Jeff has never met a thought he did not want to share.

This.

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Originally Posted by bongomania

Ah, that explains it. Those boards allow a lot more incivility, flaming, and trolling than this one does.

HC is a lame board. I have tried a couple times and learned nothing - except how to flame.

I think it also has to do with a grown man acting like a 12 year old boy.

Darkstrike · #16 05-17-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Perry

Also, why does it say Last Activity: 12-01-2001? Were all of his recent threads and posts wiped???

Its a glitch, seemingly from his original account here, when he had his own forum area.

deekay911 · #17 05-17-2010, 10:27 AM

there's a Jeff Berlin and a JeffBerlin listed under members - I think the latter was the one he used recently and was banned..

JimmyM · #18 05-17-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by keyscaptain

and Ken SMith is gone too! I was just informed he was banned. does that mean that anyone with a unique personality that doesn't fit the mold is done away with?

i used to think so but i don't anymore. you do have to tart yourself down for tb, but seeing a handful of kids coming on here and getting verbally brutalized for just not knowing any better made me realize that rules might be a good thing

keyscaptain · #19 05-17-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveC

This.

HC is a lame board. I have tried a couple times and learned nothing - except how to flame.

I think it also has to do with a grown man acting like a 12 year old boy.

agreed with HC now. It used to be a great place, but then they switched to 2.0 (total fail) and split the populace there. place is a ghost town now, nothing but trolls etc.

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Originally Posted by Rickett Customs

When it comes to question of the actions of a moderator, these a "Case closed" and a preferred to be taken to PM. These are rules that are not an exception to anyone here.

that gets sketchy to me. it makes a person unable to state his case and thus makes it more of a dictatorship then anything don't you think?

Rickett Customs · #20 05-17-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by keyscaptain

that gets sketchy to me. it makes a person unable to state his case and thus makes it more of a dictatorship then anything don't you think?

You can still state your case, just no need to publicly do it with a thread. This is a privately owned board, besides and is governed a bit differently as a result. Rules are what keep this from becoming HC or dudepit.