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02-12-2013, 05:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pennsylvania | | | Ive been looking for a warning like this. I would be happy to buy this thread from you and for your trouble I will give you $2 more than you are asking. Ill arrange for my moving company to pick up a print out of this thread. | 
02-12-2013, 05:15 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Layton, UT | | | While we are on the subject of supporting members, I am but my feedback score stopped appearing. How can I get it back? And is it ok to ask for feedback from the other party in a sale?
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02-12-2013, 05:16 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Layton, UT | | | It just reappeared, how weird.
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02-12-2013, 05:18 PM
|  | Mr. Copeland | | Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Tacoma, WA | | | Feedback only appears in the B/S/T classifieds. | 
02-12-2013, 05:18 PM
| | Registered User Tone Bastards Cables | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Jose, CA | | | I always make sure to talk on the phone with someone before a trade, buy or sale. A good majority of people on here also have a facebook page. Get their name, not user name, and do a little check over on fb to see if they are a real person and located where they say they are. I have had a few guys on here do that with me and ended up adding me as a friend and chat with them on fb too. Nothing wrong with doing a background check yourself or at least talking with the person on the phone.
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02-12-2013, 05:19 PM
|  | Mr. Copeland | | Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Tacoma, WA | | | I don't mind selling to someone with 0 feedback, but you better believe I'm going to check up on whether or not their active on the rest of the forums. | 
02-12-2013, 05:32 PM
|  | Always groove.... | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Columbia, Md | | | I had a possible (probable) scam attempted about a year ago. The person sent me the PayPal and had I not looked closely at the address I would have missed the bottom of the address. Something like (made up, of course):
Tommy Tom
1234 W. Central St
New York, NY 12345
China
So, I just refunded the money and told him "No thanks". Did a Google StreetView on the address and it was a vacant looking business in the middle of nowhere.
I didn't report it because technically I was the one that backed out of the deal. I'm pretty sure that the PayPal would have been reversed on me later.
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02-12-2013, 05:32 PM
| | | | Checking for activity and participation in the forums is your only defense- it means they care about their reputation here and that will be your lever to get them to deal fairly. Checking out their purported identity through other means, FB, etc., is a great idea too.
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02-12-2013, 05:33 PM
|  | Registered Loser | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumper While we are on the subject of supporting members, I am but my feedback score stopped appearing. How can I get it back? And is it ok to ask for feedback from the other party in a sale? | Sure. I ask for it and offer it.
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02-12-2013, 05:36 PM
|  | Me and Harpua, We Couldn't Care Fewer... | | Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Decatur, GA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mikenel169 I think it should come down to sale and trades for supporting members only. | I thought that was already the case
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02-12-2013, 05:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | Just please don't rule all of us 0/0 dudes! Some of us are just lurkers for info and new gear!  | 
02-12-2013, 05:51 PM
|  | Registered BadAss | | | | | I think the best way to deal with someone who has no feedback or any real history here is to get as much info from them as you can ie. facebbook account and such. What about skypeing the person ? Having them on skype and asking to see there I.D right there on the spot.. I`m new to TB but was lucky enough to fall in with some great TBers also lucky enough to have them trust me but we spoke on the phone many times before a transaction was made. Ask them there house color and then google map their house. You can go virtually anywhere in the world and look into someones house window. There are so many ways to make the transaction feel more comfortable. If your trading with someone new have them send you their item first so they can get that good feedback rating. I think that 99.9999% of the TB community are great people, once we start getting overly paranoid and stop trusting this will fall apart. Just a few thoughts from the new guy
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02-12-2013, 05:52 PM
| | Registered User Tone Bastards Cables | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Jose, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TinyE Just please don't rule all of us 0/0 dudes! Some of us are just lurkers for info and new gear!  | We where all 0/0 TBers at one time. When I did my first trade it was cross country for a bass. Both valued over $1500. Providing info like phone # and other stuff will help build credibility when making a deal. Communication is key. If you talk and build a little trust a lot of guys, like myself, will give other TBers the benefit of the doubt and give them a chance regardless of having no feedback yet.
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02-12-2013, 05:54 PM
|  | Thumbrest, Flats and Fingers | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: TN | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TinyE Just please don't rule all of us 0/0 dudes! Some of us are just lurkers for info and new gear!  | You should participate...Everyone has something "cool" to offer. 
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02-12-2013, 05:57 PM
|  | dubya dubya dubya dot stealing bass dot commmm Endorsing Artist: Eden/washburn (usmusiccorp) Ernie Ball | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DALLAS | | | +1 for being a member for a while. Lots of activity on TB- build up some clout, if someone is just joining to buy....ill pass- and sell to a member that's at least present on the forums-
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02-12-2013, 06:06 PM
|  | Always groove.... | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Columbia, Md | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jaibeau +1 for being a member for a while. Lots of activity on TB- build up some clout, if someone is just joining to buy....ill pass- and sell to a member that's at least present on the forums- | Yeah, same here.
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02-12-2013, 06:12 PM
|  | Me and Harpua, We Couldn't Care Fewer... | | Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Decatur, GA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by uptowndirt just move to canada, many don't want to sell to canucks. nothing worst than having cash and a good rep, but living in a poor location. well ok there are several things worst. | I would have to think long and hard about selling to ya cause you Damn Canadians stole my Atlanta Thrashers!!!! 
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02-12-2013, 06:17 PM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | whenever you have a situation like this, and you are contacted by someone who seems odd, please contact one of the admins via pm so we can investigate.
making a thread is fine, but if someone's a scam artist, i'd rather ban them. 
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02-12-2013, 06:20 PM
|  | Registered Loser | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis | | | Mr. Turner is on it when it comes to this, that is a fact.
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02-12-2013, 06:25 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Santa Barbara County | | | Y'damn right be aware Thank you TB community. I'm a sucka for a passionate plea and it almost failed me...er, I almost failed m'self. I appreciate those with experience with bad issues that replied with a quickness to my situation. You never know who you're dealing with. The guy/gal can be a pastor, can show pics of family, can seem "true enough" the bottom line is you don't know who's on here unless you literally know them. It's a damn sad shame. I'm still realing from the issues from a payment I paid back in Dec 22, 2012. Do I have the instrument or the money? Nope! Have I made a claim? Heck yes! My dumb ass didn't know the cut off was 45 days for paypal to intervene. And I intervened at 44 days. How crazy is that?!
It's the mistakes you make that educate you on what to do in the future. Keep the bad news coming because it helps uninformed and trusting individuals make rational decisions.
End result is this guy has to deal with the repercussions of paypal despite the fact I tried to do the right thing. Some one else's "situation(s)" should not be the destraction. And they can be good at outlining how they've tried to rectify it in the interim but to "no avail". This guy was all about "his word" and I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt...However, protect y'damn self so you don't have to get the shaft. Just sayin'.
Thanks again TB community, if I waited A DAY longer I would'a been screwed.
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