TB Classifieds gripe

[cybersnyder]

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[frootbooty]

I am so tired of the "man, if this bass was a [fill in blank], it would be mine!!!!" comments. If I see another "if this was a 5'er" or "if this had a rosewood board," it would be mine comment, I'm going to vomit.
Not to mention the "somebody buy this before I do" comments.
HUMBUG

[cybersnyder]

Those don't bother me. I look at it as a free bump.

[frootbooty]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I'm only irked by the what's the weighters. I've yet to see one of them buy something. Not sure what thems people are all about.

So true. Now I tell them if they have to ask, they can't handle it.

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I thought it was against the rules to negatively comment in a for sale thread, or question the price? Am I missing something here?

I'm only irked by the what's the weighters. I've yet to see one of them buy something. Not sure what thems people are all about.

Originally Posted by baba

You speak the truth!

I've never had someone who posted "weight?" in one of my threads actually buy something.......never.

[bobunit]

Originally Posted by lfmn16

Just complaining here, but I've had some irritating interactions in the Classifieds lately and would like to suggest some general etiquette:

If you have a problem with an ad, send the OP a PM. I don't know why some people comb the classifieds looking for issues and then post their findings in someone else's ad, when they clearly have NO INTENTION of buying anything. If you are anal retentive and have no life, at least have the courtesy to alert the OP that there is a mistake and give them an opportunity to correct their ad. If they don't, report it to the moderators. i had this happen to me recently. Although I appreciate being corrected, because I'm not trying to take advantage of anyone, I do not appreciate being corrected in an open forum which could leave some people with the impression that I was PURPOSEFULLY being deceitful.

If you don't want to buy something, don't waste the OPs time. Don't swap PM's just to drop off the face of the earth.

If you aren't serious, don't make offers. I recently had someone offer me a trade and when I responded, they never responded back. I'm not upset that they changed their mind, but at least have the courtesy to let me know.

In short, just treat people the way you want to be treated.

End of rant.

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[bobunit]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I'm only irked by the what's the weighters. I've yet to see one of them buy something. Not sure what thems people are all about.

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

I've never had someone who posted "weight?" in one of my threads actually buy something.......never.

Recently, I purchased a Zon off the classifieds. While my decision to buy was based on several factors (condition, features, aesthetics, etc.) ultimately it came down to the weight of the instrument. I will say I did not post the question in the public forum, but rather via email.

[9mmMike]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I thought it was against the rules to negatively comment in a for sale thread, or question the price? Am I missing something here?

I'm only irked by the what's the weighters. I've yet to see one of them buy something. Not sure what thems people are all about.

Every bass I have bought from TB has been preceded by a "what's the weight" if the seller did not specify.

[9mmMike]

Originally Posted by cybersnyder

Those don't bother me. I look at it as a free bump.

Concur. A friendly bump indeed.

[frootbooty]

Originally Posted by 9mmMike

Concur. A friendly bump indeed.

I once saw somebody post on a jazz bass ad, "man if this was a pbass, it would be mine," or vice versa. In a nutshell, he is saying if it was an entirely different bass than the one for sale, he would buy it (after asking the weight, obviously).

[Zooberwerx]

Originally Posted by bobunit

Recently, I purchased a Zon off the classifieds. While my decision to buy was based on several factors (condition, features, aesthetics, etc.) ultimately it came down to the weight of the instrument. I will say I did not post the question in the public forum, but rather via email.

Same here. If the weight is not specified, I ask politely via either a thread post or PM. I find the info to be as pertinent as scale, woods, elex, and features when it comes to making a purchase. When listing an instrument, neither omission nor brevity are virtues.

Riis
135+ Positive Feedbacks...IOW, I'm actually asking and buying the stuff.

[D Bopp]

Nice thread. I've had some speed bumps in my selling history on TB. But the pros almost always outweigh the cons.

[frootbooty]

I must be in the minority because the weight of a bass means nothing to me. When I am on stage, I couldn't tell you if my bass was 8 lbs or 12 lbs. That extra 4 lbs could be Tito's vodka for all I know.

[tjh]

FWIW, I can tell the difference between an 8.5lb bass and a 9.5lb bass ... rather my body tells me the difference after an hour or two ... but then, everybody has their own reasons and circumstances why things are important ...

... weight is a definite consideration in every bass I purchase .. 5 years ago you saw very few people ask about the weight, now as has been mentioned, it is the buzz question of the day/week/month ... partly because people see others do it, but also because it has become understood that the weight of a bass can vary, and for those that have issues, they now realize the importance of it ... in the 70's it seemed everybody thought the heavier the better .. now everybody that played back in those days is in their 50's and 60's and at a whole different place in life...

.. not to be rude or condescending, but if you place an ad for a bass for sale and do NOT want to be asked the weight, then post it ... and preferrably with the method used to weight it, as scales and methods can vary greatly, and there is a big difference between a dial type bath scale with somebody holding it and checking the bass on a calibrated digital shipping scale ...if you dont care to post it, or even take the time to weigh it for that matter, no biggie ... just realize that you may have limited your potential sale market to those that weight does not matter ...

... case in point and then I will drop it ... I have seen Fender Road Worn basses for sale weighing between 7.25# and 9.5#... if you are trying to sell a 9.5# RW for $700, be prepared to sit on it a bit ... now take that same bass, same price, but it is 7+ accurate lbs ... it will be gone almost immediately ... bottom line, weight matters .. if not to you, realize it does to others, probably now moreso than any time in the past, as more people become more aware ...

I may also ask for the weight on a bass for sale even if I am not interested in that bass, but I am considering one of that model for a future purchase ... what I am doing is gathering information to make an informed decision when the time comes ... if everytime I ask someone I see that model consistently runs heavy, I will drop it from consideration, and vice versa, if they seem to be nice light basses, they may very well jump in line to be my next purchase when I am ready ...

... all JMHO of course

[frootbooty]

Can we change the subject and gripe about something else? What about those people who post something in the want it now section. You either offer them the thing they are looking for or point them to it (at a fair price to boot) and they pass on it. Then they bump their own post a day later.
People need to say they want something for nothing if that's the case. Nothing better than a post like WTB a 90s Warwick Thumb 5 string. I only want to spend $500.

[brotherbassj]

Originally Posted by frootbooty

Can we change the subject and gripe about something else? What about those people who post something in the want it now section. You either offer them the thing they are looking for or point them to it (at a fair price to boot) and they pass on it. Then they bump their own post a day later.
People need to say they want something for nothing if that's the case. Nothing better than a post like WTB a 90s Warwick Thumb 5 string. I only want to spend $500.

Ill jump on this.........the WTB threads. If someone posts a WTB then they should be lloking for something specific and willing to pay reasonable market vakue persay. If they have a cap on their budget that could be posted. You might get a beat up 90's bolt on thumb for $1000 or Ive seen a 98 4 go for $800 but under $500 is unreasonable.........

[frootbooty]

Originally Posted by brotherbassj

Ill jump on this.........the WTB threads. If someone posts a WTB then they should be lloking for something specific and willing to pay reasonable market vakue persay. If they have a cap on their budget that could be posted. You might get a beat up 90's bolt on thumb for $1000 or Ive seen a 98 4 go for $800 but under $500 is unreasonable.........

I agree. I am starting to think if you have a limit on what you are willing to spend, then you should state it, especially if it's much less than the going rate on tb and elsewhere.

[cybersnyder]

I've stayed away from the WTB section. My impression is that it's mostly people that want an insane bargain or are looking to flip it for a profit.

[bolophonic]

Originally Posted by frootbooty

Can we change the subject and gripe about something else? What about those people who post something in the want it now section. You either offer them the thing they are looking for or point them to it (at a fair price to boot) and they pass on it. Then they bump their own post a day later.
People need to say they want something for nothing if that's the case. Nothing better than a post like WTB a 90s Warwick Thumb 5 string. I only want to spend $500.

I confess that I recently posted a WTB and got two responses and then forgot to follow up on the other one for several weeks. I feel like an idiot about it.

[tjh]

Originally Posted by frootbooty

Can we change the subject and gripe about something else? What about those people who post something in the want it now section. You either offer them the thing they are looking for or point them to it (at a fair price to boot) and they pass on it. Then they bump their own post a day later.
People need to say they want something for nothing if that's the case. Nothing better than a post like WTB a 90s Warwick Thumb 5 string. I only want to spend $500.

... or, how about instead of griping about the little idiosyncracies that tend to ruffle our feathers a bit, we realize the opportunity provided to us by having the TB classifieds and be grateful for a place that lets us post our no longer needed items to a relatively educated target specific crowd ..

JMHO, but a constructive criticism that would help to improve a service provided, would be one thing ... but to critique people using the service within the rules and guidlines set forth just because they dont meet our expecations or 'bother' us ... ??

.. I have no idea WHY someone is posting what they have for sale or WTB ... but, I dont see it hurting anyone if they are within the rules... if somebody posts a WTB ad that looks unrealistic to me in their expectations, and if I think I can help, I may drop them a PM and offer to keep my eyes open locally for the item, but in the process ask if they understand what the market is for that item ... generally, they simply are not aware, and appreciate the assistance ... I have made some very good acquaintances on here by 'conversing' constructively with people ...

..and I for one am pretty thankful that we have this alternative to Ebay and Craigslist for posting gear ... I see things I dont like everyday, wherever I go ... but I am also willing to bet that more often than not, people see me do things they dont like as well ... and those are the things I need to worry about and work on ... I am willing to bet that there will be more than a few that dont like this post ... hopefully I did it in a constructive manner, that can be recognized as it was intended ... an opinion rather than judgemental or insulting ... JMHO