Book Review: Lee Konitz - Conversations on the Improviser's Art

[Treyzer]

Hiddy and Hill William, the Akido references make lots of sense, as do many other good points. Interesting trying to think and describe how the brain works and,... obviously all of our brains work a little differently!

[Anonymatt]

Haha, we're just finishing what the big bang started.

That book Thinking in Jazz has got a lot of great anecdotes about the spectrum between playing precomposed stuff versus really searching for melody. Even talks about guys that were nervous about recording so they composed entire solos.

Originally Posted by MLysh

Since this conversation has wondered so perilously close to philosophy, it might be interesting to take a moment, amid all the verbiage and conceptualization, to contemplate whether one actually has a choice in any of this.

[hdiddy]

I'm reading the John Kloptowski book that Growlerbox linked to on the first page of this thread:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17489516/A...n#outer_page_1

Fascinating read about Kloptowski's experiences of studying and performing with Warne Marsh (and a little bit with Sonny Dallas). There are links in the book that play music that recorded his specific experiences so as to feel if you're living vicariously through the author. There's also an iphone app for Scribd, so you can surely read it on your mobile device like I'm doing.

Thanks again Growler. Good ****.

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Hope I didn't kill the thread. I'd love to hear more from some of the other long timers about some of this stuff.

[GrowlerBox]

Originally Posted by hdiddy

I'm reading the John Kloptowski book that Growlerbox linked to on the first page of this thread:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17489516/A...n#outer_page_1

Fascinating read about Kloptowski's experiences of studying and performing with Warne Marsh (and a little bit with Sonny Dallas). There are links in the book that play music that recorded his specific experiences so as to feel if you're living vicariously through the author. There's also an iphone app for Scribd, so you can surely read it on your mobile device like I'm doing.

Thanks again Growler. Good ****.

Glad you're digging it. Hope to get back to it soon myself.

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

Hope I didn't kill the thread. I'd love to hear more from some of the other long timers about some of this stuff.

Ssssh. Maybe they're reading.

[hdiddy]

It's an easy read. I'm already on pg 100 and there are 235 some pages.

I'm going deeper down the rabbit hole and have Tristano book by Eun Mi Shim on order. Seems like his style of learning fits well with me. Wonder where I could find if there's a former Tristano student (or someone of that lineage) that would give skype lessons over the intertubes or preferably someone here in the Bay Area. I'm curious what these meter exercises Kloptowski mentions in his book are in detail.

[Ed Fuqua]

If there the ones I'm thinking of, it's phrasing 5 against 4, 7 against 4, stuff like that. You might also want to check out Jon Raney's additions to his father's book on improvisation, which he has made available online.
http://www.jonraney.com/teachings-an...k-in-progress/

[Anonymatt]

Wow, that is a substantial pdf there. You could make a pretty good course out of that.

[hdiddy]

Thanks Ed. More **** to shed on. Always been a fan of Jimmy Raney.

FWIW: I guess I spoke a little soon, half of Klopotowski's book is about Warnes method and includes a very detailed description of the meter studies on page 143. To boot, he lives here in the Bay Area so I might actually hit him up for a lesson if he still teaches.

[Treyzer]

Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua

If there the ones I'm thinking of, it's phrasing 5 against 4, 7 against 4, stuff like that. You might also want to check out Jon Raney's additions to his father's book on improvisation, which he has made available online.
http://www.jonraney.com/teachings-an...k-in-progress/

Thanks for posting this Ed.