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01-10-2009, 07:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | | | Canteloupe Island
I'm playing Canteloupe Island with some folks and had a question about the ostinato bass part - Are we expected to play it like that?
Will we get weird looks from the other guys if we keep the ostinato bass part, or are we expected to do more? It feels and sounds fine to me when I keep it like the original but I'd like to hear what other bass players have to say. I've checked out as many versions of the tune as I can, and they mostly all keep that same groove throughout.
Whaddya say?
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01-10-2009, 11:15 PM
| | | | It works the way it is. I keep it the same. |
01-11-2009, 06:56 AM
|  | Steve Boletchek | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Apex, NC and Woolwine, VA | | Broadly speaking, there's probably no right way and no wrong way.
But for me, I keep to the original pretty much. Especially at the beginning and end of the tune. And especially for this tune. I think the people I play with would give me those weird looks you mentioned if I tried to stretch or deviate it too much. It's pretty widely recognized. And as you said it is a good groove. But if you can do something hip with it and make a good sound and a good feel, then do!
P.S. My wife and her family are from Cape Breton. 
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01-11-2009, 01:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | | | Thanks for the replies, guys.
Where is your wifes family from in Cape Breton? That's where I hail from though I am currently studying music in Antigonish at St. FX.
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01-13-2009, 10:53 AM
| | Steve Boletchek | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Apex, NC and Woolwine, VA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by brake  Where is your wifes family from in Cape Breton? That's where I hail from though I am currently studying music in Antigonish at St. FX. | PM sent. I'm sure Canteloupe Island is warmer.
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01-14-2009, 06:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia | | | its all a matter of taste isnt it. for the sake of respect i try to pay homage to the original, but whats the point in playing the original over and over? its been done a million times over. same with footprints |
01-14-2009, 11:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, England | | | I think it depends on the gig. If you're playing with guys that seem to want to hear every original versions, or if the drummer is going for the straightahead approach to it, that's fine, stick with the original bass line. But jazz is jazz, man. You're not "supposed" to do anything. How about cantaloup with the bassline to footprints? Now THAT'S jazz... |
01-22-2009, 05:55 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Panurge I think it depends on the gig. If you're playing with guys that seem to want to hear every original versions, or if the drummer is going for the straightahead approach to it, that's fine, stick with the original bass line. But jazz is jazz, man. You're not "supposed" to do anything. How about cantaloup with the bassline to footprints? Now THAT'S jazz... | I agee - and I know that over here - it would depend on Pro - vs Semi Pro!! 
So if I was going to a pro level Jazz gig with top players and they said they were doing Cantaloupe Island, then I would know they were going to do something clever and unexpected with it and the bass might "quote" parts but would do something original and a "new twist" for the most part.
If however, we were talking about a "pub gig" where it was just for casual "punters" - then I would imagine that the ostinato part would get played verbatim! 
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01-22-2009, 06:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brookfield, CT | | | I dunno- I think it's OK to mix it up a little, depends on what the soloist is doing. I'll sometimes play the one twice and skip the five. Or pedal the one, keeping a two-feel.
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01-25-2009, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Panurge I think it depends on the gig. If you're playing with guys that seem to want to hear every original versions, or if the drummer is going for the straightahead approach to it, that's fine, stick with the original bass line. But jazz is jazz, man. You're not "supposed" to do anything. How about cantaloup with the bassline to footprints? Now THAT'S jazz... | Yep. Don't be a mule. The original was just the first. Do you want to play the first version of Autumn Leaves too? Play with the time like a 1/4 on beat 4 instead of eighths or the root on on the second eighth or omit the root for a couple of choruses. It's music. We can do whatever we want. |
01-26-2009, 01:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wexford, PA | | | I usually stick to the original at the beginning and end of the tune, and then stray off a little bit in the middle, while still keeping the basic same idea. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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