Cutting off your solo (jazz double bass)

[Marcus Johnson]

Very well said, brah. I guess it applies on any island, even that big one with 48 territories.

One thing I'd like to add about our particular island chain... I know that Maui tends to spit out people who come here and try to change things to fit their needs. I've seen it many times. Maybe Kauai is the same? I dunno, I've always been completely comfortable over there, as I am here. Respect for what came before is important. Same as in Maine, or Dusseldorf, or East LA, or Juarez, or .... well, you get it.

Opening up your ears is the first step.

[Paul Warburton]

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

i knew you were joking, but this actually happens sometimes, and I think it's just about as rude as cutting off a solo. Both ways, real interactive music ain't being made... I once had the bandleader not only go up tot he bar and order a drink while I was soloing, but also sat there and drank it for a while. After a bit, I just played the melody and took tune out. I was ready to count off the next tune and take the head on it as well, but suddenly somebody wasn't thirsty any more. Apropos of this thread, I didn't get a call back to sub on that gig for quite a while... which was perfectly OK with me.

Not zackly, but similar....
Timing.....I play one decent chorus which, to me, makes sense musically to go into another.....builds real nice to the end....got the listeners hooked in....put a nice tonic-period low C on my B string to end it. Applause from everybody but the tenor player/leader who says...."Yeah, baby! Play another!

[Treyzer]

Originally Posted by Marcus Johnson

.... One thing I'd like to add about our particular island chain... I know that Maui tends to spit out people who come here and try to change things to fit their needs. I've seen it many times. Maybe Kauai is the same? I dunno, I've always been completely comfortable over there, as I am here. Respect for what came before is important. Same as in Maine, or Dusseldorf, or East LA, or Juarez, or .... well, you get it.

Opening up your ears is the first step.

Howzit Marcus?

I see you're playing with the Phil & Angela Benoit pretty often...Very Cool!

Kauai spits people out at a pretty good rate. There are people that are not real locals who have lived here over 30 years that still consider themselves as guests. On Kauai, if you can't act like a guest and honor local customs and values...Aloha Kook!


All the Best

Trey

[Paul Warburton]

Originally Posted by Treyzer

Kauai spits people out at a pretty good rate. There are people that are not real locals who have lived here over 30 years that still consider themselves as guests. On Kauai, if you can't act like a guest and honor local customs and values...Aloha Kook!

Jeesh. I thought NYC was bad.

[Marcus Johnson]

Originally Posted by Treyzer

I see you're playing with the Phil & Angela Benoit pretty often...Very Cool!

Yup... we're about to start on a new recording. Three hats for me...producing, arranging, and bassing.

25 years for me on Maui, and I still feel like a very fortunate guest. Maybe every bandstand should feel like that.

The location of the island doesn't matter.... you still need to respect the territory. Sometimes, I go back to my home turf in Northern Wisconsin, and I feel like an outsider. Things change when you look away. Like Fuqua says, stay in the moment.

[Gornick]

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

i knew you were joking, but this actually happens sometimes, and I think it's just about as rude as cutting off a solo. Both ways, real interactive music ain't being made....

I've had this happen, you finish your solo with a definite final phrase look up to the horn to let them know to hit the head or go into 4's or whatever, and he's motioning for you to continue. I just said what I had to say, there's nothing more, and to start back into it is a nightmare. bad etiquette either way.

[Marcus Johnson]

Well, the other thing you can do is what the drummer Bob Moses did on a bandstand with me once.... soloing his ass off, and the pianist starting playing tentative chords towards the end of the form. Bob's response; "I AIN'T F***IN' DONE YET!" That was pretty clearly communicated.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

Man. You two must play with some sad *************.

Originally Posted by fingers

I'm not saying I'm some great soloist but assuming your audience or band mates are too stupid to 'get' you is just taking the responsibility away from the one person you have control over... you.

I can tell you - I have been in Jazz Jam "Purgatory" at times - sometimes I think that would be the ultimate, metaphysical torture - that is, doomed to spend eternity playing choruses of tunes where your bandmates can't hear the form, contantly cross the beat and can't hear your solos ....

Or maybe of the same tune...

[PeachinRegalia]

I hate the so called Jam Purgatory, I'm of the ones who can't be heard and seems to be the only one who seems to hear everyone, so that makes me the "bass player who lets you play without crossing your solos"

[saxmachine777]

Originally Posted by AZNBassist

The original post was made after a singer gig...

There's your problem right there. I've had countless singers cut me off while playing HORN solos (and for a sax player, I take pretty reserved solos, if I do say so myself). Like you mentioned about the guitarist, it's pan-instrumental with them. They're singers, and we give them the benefit of the doubt since they get gigs for the rest of us.

[Bruce Lindfield]

I tend to agree - if it was an instrumentalist, it might make me think (not very long though) - but for singers, I would just be expecting things like that to happen!!