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Old 09-13-2004, 12:47 PM
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hand trouble

I played my first gig with a big band the other night. Everything went pretty well considering I've very limited experience on playing out with the upright. However, during the last set we were playing an uptempo swing number ("Sing, Sing,Sing") and first my left hand then my right hand froze up on me. At first I thought I was having a stroke cause the hand curled and I had no control over it. After shaking it out, the same thing happened to the right hand. I guess my question is: Anybody ever had a similar experience? I'm chalking it up to fatigue because the next night I played a four hour gig (on electric) and had no problems.

I'm just interested in others experiences.....it was pretty frightening.
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Old 09-13-2004, 03:36 PM
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It happens to me every now and then, mostly (as in your case ) at the end of a gig or practice, on furiously fast tempos, often in hot (as in temperature) environments. These cramps are often the results of a combination of fatigue (and resulting sloppy technique), dehydration and electrolyte loss.

Ways to prevent:

- Take in plenty of fluids (but go easy on the booze)
- Do stretch excercises (palms, wrists, shoulders) before, during and after playing
- Eat a banana or other potassium-rich food in a break

Works for me.

MT
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:59 AM
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I second the suggestion of increased fluids. Also try to keep your shoulders relaxed. I had to play a tap dance show last week with no amp and a few really fast tempos. Keeping my shoulders relaxed helped my RH and arm free from tightening. Also remember the breathing thing.
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:13 AM
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Double bass is a physical sport.
It's really a good idea to not play out until you've had
about a year of daily practice and lessons.
Please be careful not to injure yourself, and
build up your strength gradually. . .

Have fun with the bull fiddlel!
LM
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LM Bass
Double bass is a physical sport.
It's really a good idea to not play out until you've had
about a year of daily practice and lessons.
Please be careful not to injure yourself, and
build up your strength gradually. . .

Have fun with the bull fiddlel!
LM
I think you should get out as soon as you get your chops to the point where you won't make a fool out of yourself. You can practice all you want but there's no substitute for the challenge of a gig.
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:23 AM
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I beg to differ.

I teach bass at a couple of Community Colleges, and I have seen MANY students switch to double bass from electric. They quickly find out that they can make money playing out, so they dash off into playing some gigs, get tendinitis or carpal tunnel problems, then have to take a year off.

And these are guys I have warned repeatedly about getting in shape first.

Playing jazz walking bass is very physically demanding. You have to play every quarter note of every tune, and you can never stop. Tendinitis forces you to STOP playing, and you lose all that time you have built up.

I agree that playing a gig is a challenge.
Just make sure you are up for it, please. . .
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:13 AM
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Playing jazz walking bass is very physically demanding. You have to play every quarter note of every tune, and you can never stop. Tendinitis forces you to STOP playing, and you lose all that time you have built up.

Just make sure you are up for it, please. .


Wise words.
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