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03-13-2007, 08:56 PM
| | | | How Many Here Know O.P.'s "Tricotism"? I confess I never learned it. I will this year some time. How many play it?
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03-13-2007, 09:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brooklyn NY /SUNY Purchase | | | I worked throught it about a year ago. I should probably go through it again since its a must know for bass players. Thing is no one here ever plays it. | 
03-13-2007, 10:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kennesaw, GA | | | I think I could still get through it, although it may not be pretty. Unfortunately, the few times I've done it on gigs, the piano player plays the Oscar Peterson version, which has a bunch of different stuff.
I remember learning the solo in college, and was surprised to see that there are a few minor mistakes in Todd Coolman's Bass Tradition book (I don't know if it's been fixed in a newer edition) and a whole bunch of ridiculous errors in another Oscar Pettiford book. I forgot the title but the author's name is something like Volker Nahrmann. I'm pretty sure he even copied some of Todd Coolman's mistakes! So if you're planning on learning the solo, transcribe it yourself. | 
03-14-2007, 02:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC | | | I know it, but never get to play it. | 
03-14-2007, 07:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn NY | | | I do. | 
03-14-2007, 09:45 AM
|  | Student of Life Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisville, KY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Speranza I know it, but never get to play it. | Ditto. | 
03-14-2007, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TomSauter
I remember learning the solo in college, and was surprised to see that there are a few minor mistakes in Todd Coolman's Bass Tradition book (I don't know if it's been fixed in a newer edition) and a whole bunch of ridiculous errors in another Oscar Pettiford book. I forgot the title but the author's name is something like Volker Nahrmann. I'm pretty sure he even copied some of Todd Coolman's mistakes! So if you're planning on learning the solo, transcribe it yourself. |
That's funny; I remember seeing an ad for that Pettiford book where he said he transcribed like 80 O.P. solos! I didn't even think O.P. had 80 recorded solos.. | 
03-14-2007, 10:22 AM
|  | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | I know it and try to call it when I can. | 
03-14-2007, 08:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, England , U.K. | | | I don't know it, but would like to learn it. Do you know which albums the best Oscar Pettiford version, and Oscar Peterson version( if it is quite different) are on?? | 
03-15-2007, 12:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kennesaw, GA | | | I believe the famous Oscar Pettiford version is on "Tricotism" by Lucky Thompson. It's also on some compilations like "The Bass" if you can find it. A good version of Oscar Peterson playing it is on "The Sound of the Trio". Ray Brown has a long solo and his basslines on that tune are absolutely incredible. | 
03-15-2007, 09:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, England , U.K. | | Thanks, I will get those albums. I've not really listened to Lucky Thompson, and more Ray Brown will do me good. | 
03-15-2007, 12:34 PM
| | Inadvertent Microtonalist | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, ME | | | The first time I played with a local big band, Scott Reeves called the chart. Fortunately I knew the tune -- it would have been a bear to sight-read.
Ten years later, the "B" big-band at my kid's school is playing that same chart. The featured bassist is a very talented kid, fifteen-year-old Luc Cary. He's about 5' 2" tops. He's standing out front and telling his tale. | 
03-15-2007, 12:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | Sure and another nice bass/tenor line by Thad Jones called THREE AND ONE.
If nobody calls it, then YOU call it.
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03-15-2007, 09:06 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albuquerque | | I used to play that tune a lot in Seattle. I have a tenor player friend who always called it up (he's a huge Lucky Thompson fan). In my new home, a piano player I work wants to learn it. Maybe we should all keep calling this one at sessions and gigs until people learn it. Before too long, it will be a standard all over the country.
Also, regarding Volker Nahrmann's book, it certainly has some errors in it, but I still think it's an incredible book. It was practically my textbook when I was first learning how to solo. Of course, it's always wise to check out the original recording and see how accurate the transcription is (and, of course, reading someone else's transcription is no substitute for doing your own). I believe Volker has a bass shop in the Boston area. | 
03-16-2007, 05:37 PM
|  | Musical Anarchist | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sutton, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TomSauter I believe the famous Oscar Pettiford version is on "Tricotism" by Lucky Thompson. | I've looked for that recording for a long time and could never find it. I believe it out of print. Someday I hope to run across it at a yard sale or perhaps in the library. | 
03-16-2007, 09:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, England , U.K. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddels I've looked for that recording for a long time and could never find it. I believe it out of print. Someday I hope to run across it at a yard sale or perhaps in the library. | Found it. Been re-issued on the Fresh Sound label as " Lucky Thompson meets Oscar Pettiford" | 
03-16-2007, 09:54 PM
|  | Musical Anarchist | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sutton, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by simandlhandle Found it. Been re-issued on the Fresh Sound label as " Lucky Thompson meets Oscar Pettiford" | Thanks. I'm going to look for it. | 
04-02-2007, 11:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, FL | | | Just learned it as one of my forum and jury pieces for this semester. Great tune, and the transcription of the solo I was given by my teacher is exactly like the recording. I don't know what album its' from, because I have a CD with about 60 oscar pettiford tunes on them with just the intro, head, and solo spliced together... Strange, but allows me to hear at least the difficult parts in OP's tunes.
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04-03-2007, 12:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago | | | I really dig that tune. I don't know it either. I was just looking for something new to transcribe and learn. Perfect.
There is a cool version on one of Ray Brown's two bass hits albums with Ray and Pierre Boussaquet on bass and Jackie Terrason on piano. | 
04-03-2007, 09:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah | | | I learned it from Oscar Peterson's "The Sound of The Trio." Unfortunately I too never get to play it. The intro on the Peterson album is great stuff too. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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