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11-15-2007, 04:42 PM
| | | | JAZZ BASS - where to start?
Im on the begining, been playing bass guitar for 3 years and double bass for more than 6 months...
Where to start to learn the basics???
Any good books for beginers?
Thx
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11-15-2007, 06:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Tx | | | Start with Simandl (the book most of the Jazz greats learned from) and get a good classical bass teacher. Once you have good technique and knowledge of the fingerboard you should start working on jazz tunes. |
11-16-2007, 12:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kennesaw, GA | | | Why should he wait? You hardly have to master the fingerboard to play Song for My Father or walk an F blues. There's nothing wrong with getting your feet wet with some easy jazz material and developing some technique at the same time. |
11-16-2007, 02:17 AM
| | | | I have a classical teacher and I play some of Simandl etudes... |
11-16-2007, 02:38 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | | The Rufus Reid DVD is pretty good in conjunction with his book "Evolving Bassist"....?
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11-16-2007, 08:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: somewhere else | | | You do have a teacher right?
Books: Simandl or Eduoard Nanny for technique (always with the bow). Modern Walking bass by Marc Johnson for some blues bass lines.
lots of listening: Paul Chambers, Ray Brown, Oscar Pettiford, Jimmy Blanton and on and on. |
11-16-2007, 02:34 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sarasota Fla | | | modern walking bass by which author?
I've heard that it is a great book but the author seems to be different. I'd love more info on this book that seems to be geared for many instruments but concentrates on the notes not the instrument...???
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11-16-2007, 02:48 PM
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11-16-2007, 02:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: somewhere else | | | That's correct, it does concentrate on note choice for creating bass lines, not so much on technique. |
11-16-2007, 03:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota | | | Something I wish I had done early on:
Get a keyboard and work on training your ear.
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11-16-2007, 05:02 PM
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Can i dl from the net some good walking books? |
11-16-2007, 08:44 PM
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11-17-2007, 07:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sarasota Fla | | | I ordered it from bass books.com and it shipped.
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11-17-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TomSauter  Why should he wait? You hardly have to master the fingerboard to play Song for My Father or walk an F blues. There's nothing wrong with getting your feet wet with some easy jazz material and developing some technique at the same time. | Yeah, and you really only need to know the first few positions to play walking lines in most tunes. |
11-22-2007, 07:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Birmingham, Alabama | | | How well do you know the fingerboard? Can you play a C major scale from the lowest note on your bass in the scale (lets say E) to the highest note on your bass, and back (coming back a different way). Can you play the Major 7th arpeggio the same way? Can you do this for the modes that would be commonly used for each arpeggio (mixolydian and the 7th chord arpeggio for example).
Intonation and technique will come from working on classical stuff and getting a teacher that can get the fundamentals of this under your hands.
Listen to the Jazz Bass greats (a lot). I would suggest you go back to the early days and work your way up to the present. Earlier artists had more easily repeatable lines, once you get them, you can move on.
Learn Jazz Standards (Ambersold books or band-in-a-box, etc would help here. Play the melodies. Play the melodies and sing a bass line. Play the bass line and sing the melody. Start to develop solos using a combination of the bass line and the melody (quoting the melody every now and then to keep you grounded in the tune. Eventually you will not have to do this, but I have found it helps in the beginning. Play with a combo once you have some standards under your fingers. There is no substitute in Jazz for learning by doing.
Jazz is a process and all of us are constantly learning. |
12-05-2007, 06:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Richmond VA | | | start with the blues
start with a transcription
choose a blues tune that has ray brown playing bass. Transcribe 2 choruses of his lines. Then analyze what note choices he used (1,3,5,b5,4 etc).
If you don't know basic theory (how to construct a major and minor scale) then you should read up on it. This will clear things up a LOT, it did for me at least.
If you know an F Major scale up to the 2nd F on the G string, you're prepared to learn jazz.
Listen a LOT.
I gotta run, but I think someone should suggest some recordings to listen to/transcribe |
12-05-2007, 07:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cambridge, MA | | I am, after many years of playing electric, considering switching to DB and am learning how to walk myself. I'd like to get ahold of Walking Modern Bass, but a friend gave me another good book I'm working through, "Building Walking Bass Lines" by Ed Friedland: http://www.bassbooks.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=34 I am finding it pretty excellent, it's definitely helping me learn how to connect chords with walking and it ramps things up at a pretty quick pace so you don't get bored. |
12-05-2007, 09:27 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Seattle, WA | | | Your profile doesn't say where you live or how old you are. That would be helpful info to us.
But, let me make some suggestions that may be more or less helpful to you:
Go to a jam session in your town. Just watch and listen. If it seems cool, say hello to someone be polite, ask a simple question. Maybe write down the tunes that they play in a little note book. (REALLY USEFUL INFO FOR YOU). Chances are some of these same guys will still be the ones out there playing when you're ready and unfortunately (fortunately) they'll still be playing those same tunes when you're ready. Come back now and again and check on them and compare your progress to what you're seeing and hearing.
Don't be a JAMF.
You might meet your future teacher there. Or you might meet the student of your future teacher there.
Don't walk in with your bass or someone will hire you and then you won't have any time to practice.
If you're not old enough to go to clubs then get community college non-credit course books. Community center program guides. Craigslist in your area. Other things like that. Someone somewhere near you is playing Autumn Leaves right now, I promise you. Look in on them.
And, what everyone else said.
And get a teacher.
And spend all of your college money experimenting with strings.
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12-06-2007, 01:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York City | | Quote: |
And spend all of your college money experimenting with strings..
| or in my case, fixing my bass at Gage's |
12-06-2007, 02:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Haven, CT | | | I agree that the Rufus Reid's "The Evolving Bassist" is a great book.
Another good book is "Walking Jazz Lines For Bass" by Jay Hungerford. It has simple straight forward lines to get you started.
Carol Kaye has a great series of books, CDs, and DVDs as well.
Also, Todd Johnson has two DVDs on walking bass lines that are good for beginners. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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