More Impressive?

[bassnutj]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHCv6...eature=related

or

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yI-1sq5dFD4


One is bebop, the other free. Obvious differences. One has to play changes, one is making them up as he goes. Both insane technique.

[Mark Perna]

I love both of those guys. Dave Holland just kills me no what he's playing. The Rivers trio was one of my favorites of his bands. And the Joe Pass/NHOP duet is probably my favorite of NHOP's stuff as well.

mark

[nathanmcnathan]

I much prefer dave holland... NHOP might have great technique, but holland plays with emotion, and makes his notes mean something

[Marcus Johnson]

I'm not worthy to make the distinction. They're both more impressive than I'll ever be, for different reasons. It's an empty exercise.

[nathanmcnathan]

Still, you're entitled to an opinion. I prefer Dave Holland because he's a great all-around player, and I love his improvisational style.

[TomSauter]

Those are both great videos, but I think I prefer the Dave
Holland one. Although he loses points for the black turtleneck-avant garde combination...such a cliche

[jumpinin]

Originally Posted by TomSauter

Those are both great videos, but I think I prefer the Dave
Holland one. Although he loses points for the black turtleneck-avant garde combination...such a cliche

With that mustache he could be in a 70s porn movie ... and make many of the same faces.

[hdiddy]

I dunno. I don't think an comparison could be made. It's like apples and oranges. There are reasons to love/hate both. IMO, the only thing that matters is whether that music speaks to you or not. I myself, like structure, so Dave Holland's clip is less appealing... but it doesn't mean I didn't like that clip.

[rgr]

Here's another amazing one. It's the great Mike Richmond with Dave Liebman on youtube.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OXIkz8CPDwo

[Will Yager]

Originally Posted by hdiddy

I dunno. I don't think an comparison could be made. It's like apples and oranges. There are reasons to love/hate both. IMO, the only thing that matters is whether that music speaks to you or not. I myself, like structure, so Dave Holland's clip is less appealing... but it doesn't mean I didn't like that clip.

I definitely agree, except that I prefer Holland.

[PocketGroove82]

Self 1 Says: "I Love Chops!"
Self 2 Says: "Chops Aren't Everything!"
Self 3 Says: "Why Aren't You 2 Guys Practicing?"

I am big fans of both Dave Holland and NHOP but those videos do not exhibit the things about their playing that I admire. Sure I love seeing those guys shred a fingerboard to pieces and it impresses the heck out of me, but when they use those chops in a lyrical fashion. That's when I'm floored.

Thanks for the links!
Matt

(i like the Holland)

[emilio g]

Here's another amazing one. It's the great Mike Richmond with Dave Liebman on youtube.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OXIkz8CPDwo

I study with Mike and watching him play like that in lessons blows me away every time. Ridiculous musician, brilliant teacher, and really nice guy.