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10-25-2008, 12:22 AM
| | crosswind downwind bass | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tacoma WA | | | My First Jazz Gig
A singer friend of mine wants to do a jazz gig and has asked me to play bass. I've never played a jazz gig but she says that I've got the feel. She has a piano player lined up who is an accomplished jazz player.
Now for me this is tremendously exciting and a bit intimidating. She suggested that I pick out some tunes that I would like to do. I know a few...
Autumn Leaves
All of Me
Beautiful Love
Blue Bossa
Satin Doll
Willow Weep for Me
The Way You Look Tonight
There Will Never Be Another You
Does anyone have suggestions for tunes, or advice how to approach this?
Also, does anyone know some cool changes for Danny Boy?
Thanks
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10-25-2008, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by D McCartney  A singer friend of mine wants to do a jazz gig and has asked me to play bass. I've never played a jazz gig but she says that I've got the feel. She has a piano player lined up who is an accomplished jazz player.
Now for me this is tremendously exciting and a bit intimidating. She suggested that I pick out some tunes that I would like to do. I know a few...
Autumn Leaves
All of Me
Beautiful Love
Blue Bossa
Satin Doll
Willow Weep for Me
The Way You Look Tonight
There Will Never Be Another You
Does anyone have suggestions for tunes, or advice how to approach this?
Also, does anyone know some cool changes for Danny Boy?
Thanks | +1 on Autumn Leaves best place to start.
Second song to check out it Blue train by John Coletrane.
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10-25-2008, 01:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura County | | | Best advice, don't quit. It may seem hard or above your head but if you really commit to it you can do it. Maybe get a friend to help motivate you.
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10-25-2008, 03:34 PM
| | crosswind downwind bass | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tacoma WA | | | Thanks Alpha,
I'll get to work on Blue Train. And thanks for the encouragement. It will be a challenge but I'm looking forward to it.
Dwight
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10-25-2008, 04:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaMale Second song to check out it Blue train by John Coletrane. | Are there lyrics to Blue Train? I've never seen any.
I suspect since he's been invited to play by a vocalist, she'll be expecting to sing.
Won't hurt to learn it if you're going to continue with jazz, though. |
10-25-2008, 11:57 PM
| | crosswind downwind bass | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tacoma WA | | | I listened to a midi of Coltrane's Blue Train, and now am listening to Linda Ronstat singing The Blue Train. I don't think they are the same song. So far I can't find lyrics for the former. Yes, there is a vocalist. I will learn Blue Train anyway, it sounds cool.
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10-26-2008, 12:01 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan | | | a word of advice. Any song that you want to find online, if you type it in on youtube, artist and song name, it will probably be there. Ive never had it fail me yet. |
10-26-2008, 02:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | It's: Blue Trane
Not like choo choo train, Like John Coltrane. Tall black guy, played some tenor sax. I think he were with that Myles Davies guy.
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10-26-2008, 05:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chipping Norton, Oxon, England | | | DMcC
Go for it. Ask the singer what tunes (and especially lyrics) she knows and is comfortable with and try and work round those. Keep your lines simple and sympathetic to the singer.
Now, this is very important. Ask her what keys she will be doing each song in. Don't accept outlandish keys but try to pitch each tune in a very close 'flat' key, such as Bb, F, Eb, Ab and of course C or maybe G. This will stand you in good stead for your later jazz gigs because the jazzers will all use these keys - some even Db aaaarg! |
10-26-2008, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Davis DMcC
Go for it. Ask the singer what tunes (and especially lyrics) she knows and is comfortable with and try and work round those. Keep your lines simple and sympathetic to the singer.
Now, this is very important. Ask her what keys she will be doing each song in. Don't accept outlandish keys but try to pitch each tune in a very close 'flat' key, such as Bb, F, Eb, Ab and of course C or maybe G. This will stand you in good stead for your later jazz gigs because the jazzers will all use these keys - some even Db aaaarg! | com'on Db's not that bad  . A few of the mingus tunes are Eb minor or Bbminor. |
10-26-2008, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bassistloaded21 a word of advice. Any song that you want to find online, if you type it in on youtube, artist and song name, it will probably be there. Ive never had it fail me yet. | I haven't tried that. Thanks, sounds like a good tip.
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10-26-2008, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton It's: Blue Trane
Not like choo choo train, Like John Coltrane. Tall black guy, played some tenor sax. I think he were with that Myles Davies guy. | Oh. 
Trane, like the air conditioner?
Love that Myles guy.
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10-26-2008, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Davis DMcC
Go for it. Ask the singer what tunes (and especially lyrics) she knows and is comfortable with and try and work round those. Keep your lines simple and sympathetic to the singer.
Now, this is very important. Ask her what keys she will be doing each song in. Don't accept outlandish keys but try to pitch each tune in a very close 'flat' key, such as Bb, F, Eb, Ab and of course C or maybe G. This will stand you in good stead for your later jazz gigs because the jazzers will all use these keys - some even Db aaaarg! | Yep, I will definately defer to the singer, she asked me to pick out some songs so I'm looking for ideas.
Thanks, that sounds like good advice on keys. I play mostly by ear and I do practice scales and arpeggios in all the keys. And used to play French horn so understand about horn keys. I'll see what she says.
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10-26-2008, 08:24 AM
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10-26-2008, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Eli_Upright12 com'on Db's not that bad . A few of the mingus tunes are Eb minor or Bbminor. | Oh, allright then, I'm just a lazy sod. I can do it but would a guy starting out want to? C's so close! |
10-26-2008, 11:14 AM
| | Inadvertent Microtonalist | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, ME | | | Hey, congratulations! My advice is simple:
a) See if you can get together with the pianist before the gig
b) If at all possible try to get all three of you together after the rehearsal with the pianist
c) Be yourself and enjoy yourself. She didn't ask to do this because you are the latest incarnation of Jimmy Blanton, Ray Brown or Clint Houston. She asked you because she likes you and she thinks you'll listen hard and do fine. SHE'S RIGHT. Keep your ears open and aim to satisfy, rather than to impress, and you will have an excellent time and a positive growth experience.
Report back please!
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10-26-2008, 12:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | What Sam said.
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10-26-2008, 12:36 PM
| | | | A couple of Miles Davis tunes come to mind. "All Blues" and "So What". These are both "non-vocal" but are true standards now and important to learn. |
10-26-2008, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by drpocket A couple of Miles Davis tunes come to mind. "All Blues" and "So What". These are both "non-vocal" but are true standards now and important to learn. | Actually there are lyrics to All Blues. Jon Hendricks I think...
The sea, the sky and you and I....etc.
By the way, these tunes as great as they are,are not true STANDARD tunes. They ARE considered standard jazz tunes. By standard, we are talking Cole Porter, Gershwin etc.
If the contractor specifies jazz, let er rip. But people need to recognize your material. You can't go wrong with Duke stuff like Satin Doll. The stuff on your own list sound sensible to me!
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10-26-2008, 12:52 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Studio City, CA | | | In terms of approach, start with Autumn Leaves and play it in quarter notes with the 4th beat a half tone above/lower than the next chord root (C-C-C-F#-F-F-etc.).Its amazingly simple, and is the basis for 'in the pocket' style playing. From there you can branch out into triads and expand. It works. Good luck and have fun.
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