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Old 01-16-2006, 08:09 PM
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Possible To Play Using One Finger On Left Hand?

I was born with my left hand cut off at the wrist. I can't really play very many instruments, seeing as how it would be nearly impossible. This may seem like a very weird question, but I was wondering if it's possible to play the double bass using my left wrist. I understand that the bass is played one string at a time, does this mean that it only takes one finger on a string to play a note? And, without a thumb on the left hand to support the bass, would the bass fall over if only supported by my body (or perhaps some sort of stand)? I decided I need to talk to some actual bass players to figure some of these thoughts I'm having out, as an upside-down guitar is the only thing I've had to sort of test my thoughts. I know even if I could handle playing some bass, I wouldn't be very good but I don't really care. Right now I'm just trying to figure out if playing the double bass is physically possible at all.

Thanks to anyone who gives me some opinions or knowledge on the subject. Any questions anyone has, I'll answer.
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Old 01-16-2006, 08:23 PM
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First off, I want to say that I think it's great that you're willing to work on such a demanding instrument considering your situation. That being said, I think that it might be able to work, however any virtuosity or speed might be out of the question. Although, since you stated that being very good is not necessarily a goal of yours, you might be able to do simple, relatively slow moving work on the bass. As far as mechanics go, bass is not only a single-string-at-a-time instrument. Double stops, chords, etc. are par for the course. But the actual process of pushing down the strings in the right places might not be completely impossible.

Now if you're just looking to make music and any instrument could do, I would recommend something like the trumpet, maybe trombone, possibly even drums or even voice. But if the double bass is truly a dream of yours, I say try and get ahold of one and see how things work out. Best of luck!
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Old 01-16-2006, 08:28 PM
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But if the double bass is truly a dream of yours, I say try and get ahold of one and see how things work out. Best of luck!
I'm trying to get into the city to a music store that has one and play around with one.

The thing is, I know I could make any instrument on the planet make a sound, heck even the guitar. It's just how good I could get that's really the limiting factor.

Oh, and I'm into anything from bluegrass to phish and if I could play a bit of bass, it would be a jamming-with-friends thing not a try-to-learn-bach thing.
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Old 01-16-2006, 08:40 PM
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I commend you for your attitude. I think it can probably be done, but maybe I've got another suggestion for you. You don't mention anything about your right hand so I will assume it is uninjured? How about playing bass left-handed? That way you can have full control of the fingering process. You could probably rig up something so you can pluck with the left wrist. I don't think bowing would be out of the question with a little creativity.

And as far as holding the bass, if you use a chair then you can balance it with your legs and not have to worry the thumb issue.
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:53 PM
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I saw a rockabilly band here in Austin called the Flametrick Subs, and their upright player didn't have a left hand! He rocked it, and never missed a beat.

Sometimes the best musicians achieve their greatness by the discipline that is required to overcome a percieved limitation. Guitar great Django Reinhardt's mangled hand comes to mind, as well as all the great blind blues guitarists.

I say go for it!
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Here he is, Lefty DeMarco in action!

http://www.flametricksubs.com/lefty.htm
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What the... That cat plays better with one hand than I do with two

I think the bottom line here's GO FOR IT!!!

You may want to give more thought to playing left handed, sounds like a good idea to me.
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Here he is, Lefty DeMarco in action!

http://www.flametricksubs.com/lefty.htm
That's almost excactly the situation I'm in... That's really very cool, maybe I should try and get in touch with him. Thanks a ton guys.

Oh and, I thought about playing lefty, but where my hand was cut off at the wrist, it woul dbe very difficult for me to pluck.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:52 AM
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marco,

where are you man?
If your close I'd certainly let you mess around on my bass to get a feel for it.

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This guy has one arm and is amazing... He NEVER picks because of this. All the notes he playes are from a magnificant technique, low string action and hammer ons basically...

He has a video on there, take a look at it and be amazed at how great of a bass player he is...

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Old 01-17-2006, 01:18 PM
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marco,

where are you man?
If your close I'd certainly let you mess around on my bass to get a feel for it.

phil
Thanks for the offer man, but I'm in Nova Scotia.

After seeing that left demarco guy I think I'm going to give this a shot. I think if I put my mind to it, I may be able to play half decent double bass

Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-17-2006, 02:54 PM
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This thread demonstrates the best that the internet has to offer. Bringing hope and possibility to another. Excellent.

Best of luck on your playing marco.
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Damn... what a neat thread. And the lyrics to The Flametrick Subs' "Life Sucking Voodoo Women" are hilarious...

marco_e: Go for it!
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do it do it DO IT.

My cousin was born with an arm that only goes a little past the elbow, and there's nothing that cat can't do. Go find a bass, and spit in the eye of anyone that doubts you.

By the by,
thanks Poppit, I was trying to remember where I had seen this situation before.

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Old 01-17-2006, 05:33 PM
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Someone mentioned Django Reinhardt who fully capable guiterists immulate, but never equal 50 years later.

Also, Horace Parlan is considered one of the best hard bop pianists on record, not the best disabled pianist. Polio limited him to the use of only a few fingers on each hand, but I can't hear it.

So, I'm certainly not going to tell you that you can't do it. I'll opine to you that I don't think I could do it, but I agree with everyone who has challenged you to take up the fight. I worry a lot about my hands and think often what would happen if something happenned to one of them and I usually think about trumpet during those times. It's the only (to my knowledge) one handed instrument and it's a really hip instrument. For whatever that's worth.

I'll tell you that if you choose doublebass and start your journey, you'll have a fan club and support network here. And ditto, if you happen to be near Seattle, you're welcome to try it out on my bass.

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In-Freaking-Credible.

I think I speak for everyone when I say, that video was freakin amazing.
CRAZY!
Go for it dude, don't let anyone tell ya you can't, except for your mom when your practicing at 3am (this freaquently happens to me) haha!
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:06 AM
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I was born with my left hand cut off at the wrist. I can't really play very many instruments, seeing as how it would be nearly impossible. This may seem like a very weird question, but I was wondering if it's possible to play the double bass using my left wrist. I understand that the bass is played one string at a time, does this mean that it only takes one finger on a string to play a note? And, without a thumb on the left hand to support the bass, would the bass fall over if only supported by my body (or perhaps some sort of stand)? I decided I need to talk to some actual bass players to figure some of these thoughts I'm having out, as an upside-down guitar is the only thing I've had to sort of test my thoughts. I know even if I could handle playing some bass, I wouldn't be very good but I don't really care. Right now I'm just trying to figure out if playing the double bass is physically possible at all.

Thanks to anyone who gives me some opinions or knowledge on the subject. Any questions anyone has, I'll answer.

I've never seen anybody play bass like this - but I just wanted to mention that I have seen a very good Jazz Trombonist, who is in a similar position to yourself...

Trombone doesn't require any keying of valves and really only requires the right hand to move the slide - might be another idea ....?
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:56 AM
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Trombone doesn't require any keying of valves and really only requires the right hand to move the slide - might be another idea ....?
I was thinking the same can be done for slide guitar. There's not alot of slide jazz guitarists around but Wil Bernard comes to mind. He used play in T.J. Kirk and has his own band here in SF.
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I saw a guy locally play bebop on pedal steel guitar and it was wicked.
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Old 01-18-2006, 12:40 PM
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So, I think I'm either going to the local music shop, or seeing if my music teacher at school has a db and would take some time to let my try it out. I'm going to give this a shot. Heck, I can play x-box, type 50 words a minute, ride a bike, and do almost whatever else I put my mind to. There are a lot of things I can do that noone believed I'd be able to, so I might have a shot.

If anyone has some input, what are the specific problems I'm most likely going to face with trying to play?

Also, I've considered other instruments such as steel guitar and trumpet, but I really really like the db. Playing has been sort of a dream of mine for awhile now.
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