URB vs EB

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Originally posted by Bruce Lindfield


So in the same post you say there's no such thing as a stupid question and welcome a newbie but dismiss my post "out of hand" without any attempt at an explanation - so what I have done to annoy you!

Thanks for the "respect"... man!

I could be wrong, but I think that what Ray is trying to say is that the keys themselves are the patterns, and that melodies come from within them.

[anonymous0726]

Just go back and re-read the entire thread. I did to confirm that I agreed with my comment to you before I posted it.

[Bruce Lindfield]

I have re-read the thread and I agree that you have explained your position clearly - but I suppose I was trying to explore the concept that there are "patterns" and "patterns" - so patterns derived from the basis of music itself, can be used to successfully create whatever you want. But I think that guitarists in particular start to develop "cliches" based on patterns they see on the neck which can stifle development - particularly in the area of melodic soloing.

But anyway - I just thought your saying "Wrong" so bluntly, was a bit rude and seemed to be an attempt to stifle debate in an area in which I am very interested and would have liked to hear more of your and others views.

So I could have said :

Originally posted by Ray Parker


No such thing as a stupid question. Slab=Electric, chest mounted bass device.

WRONG! It is just a term for a particular type of construction for the bodies of electric basses - early Fender Precisions' bodies (1951) were made of one piece of wood which was fairly thick and unshaped, while later models had body countours cut into them to make the bass feel more comfortable to the player. To distinguish the two, the earlier models are know as "slab-sided" basses or more commonly "slabs".

The term later came to be applied to any bass guitar where the body is basically one piece of wood that had no contours to fit it to the player. So - this term is inappropriate to neck-through basses or most of those produced today which tend to have fairly thin body profiles which are curved and finished. Slab basses are still popular though as a "retro" feel amongst rock players who are probably being ridiculed by the DBers when using this term as a blanket synonym!

[Phil Smith]

Hey, a slab of wood with contours is still a slab-o-wood!

Everyone plays patterns, some just sound better than others.

Bruce, how's the bow sound on that EUB of yours?

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally posted by Phil Smith

Bruce, how's the bow sound on that EUB of yours?

There's not much call for bowing in Salsa! I am playing my first gig with it on Saturday though - got the "thumbs up" from fellow band members last night! 2 weeks experience of EUB!

[robw]

Thanks again to Ray. Yesterday I read one of your posts in another thread describing finger positioning; thinking in terms of major scale tones under each finger for help in fingerboard visualization. I wrote the info down for further reference and study.

Today I read through this thread and had to jot down the comparison of modes to chords in a major scale, and some of the useful comments on each. For me this information is extremely helpful as it helps put pieces of the music puzzle together in my mind.

Anyway, your explanations - along with many others here - provide great food for thought.

[thrash_jazz]

Originally posted by Bruce Lindfield
But anyway - I just thought your saying "Wrong" so bluntly, was a bit rude and seemed to be an attempt to stifle debate in an area in which I am very interested and would have liked to hear more of your and others views.

Calling the kettle black, Bruce?

[kik4adog]

Well...coming from someone who started out playing a fretless bass guitar and later switched to double bass....I say it certainly can't hurt you much to get cracking on a fretless.

I bought my fretless bass guitar because I needed a bass fast and didn't have much money.And ended up falling in love with it.I developed this style of sliding as well.Which I think came in handy when learning to play double bass.

I'm no professional double bassist.I don't even consider myself VERY good.
But I can tell what aspects that I picked up from playing fretless bass that some people have to actually learn while they're learning to play double bass.

Now there is a different style to playing double bass than that of bass guitar.There's not as much walking involved in alot of bass guitar lines that you hear....at least in rock....But since the double bass has less sustain you kinda have to keep the fingers moving.
But, if you ask me, that's where the fun is.

Just a tip for you....If you decided to get a fretless bass...I STRONGLY recommend flat wound strings!