urgent search of the karr education movie

[brummbass]

hey everyone,

i study double bass in berlin, germany. on gary karrs homepage i read about the movie about all the technical bass stuff. i´m so interested in this dvd, but its almost unpayable, its about 90 dollar- to send it to germany much more than 100.

can i load it down anywhere?

or is there anybody who has this dvd, and can make a copy for me? i would remit u the money for the post.

thank u very much for ur answers!

[Francois Blais]

Originally Posted by brummbass

or is there anybody who has this dvd, and can make a copy for me? i would remit u the money for the post.

You know this is illegal don't you?

[mcnaire2004]

Originally Posted by francois

You know this is illegal don't you?

Party pooper lol

[jheise]

IMHO: In relation to what you can learn from them, the price for the DVDs is a bargain.

Jan

[Snakewood]

Originally Posted by francois

You know this is illegal don't you?

you aren't being serious are you??

that dvd is extremely expensive anyway

[Snakewood]

Originally Posted by jheise

IMHO: In relation to what you can learn from them, the price for the DVDs is a bargain.

Jan

I don't how much you can learn from them...Gary uses one finger a lot of the time in solo stuff and he doesn't use his wrist at all in german bow technique. also take a look at the fact that his bow doesn't move away from the bridge at all when he plays. his technique works for him, never seen it work for anyone else.

[jheise]

Originally Posted by Snakewood

that dvd is extremely expensive anyway

I don't think so, compared to the prices of lessons and the ground he's covering on the DVD.

Originally Posted by Snakewood

I don't how much you can learn from them...Gary uses one finger a lot of the time in solo stuff and he doesn't use his wrist at all in german bow technique. also take a look at the fact that his bow doesn't move away from the bridge at all when he plays. his technique works for him, never seen it work for anyone else.

I don't want to make this a debate on the details of Gary's technique. Your statement gives me the impression of you being close minded in regard to different playing techniques. If you are not a solo player in front of an orchestra, Gary's technique probably won't help you. But I like to know _everything_ about the bass I can - and the DVD certainly helped me a lot in regard to bowing and sound producing. I also own Rabbath's DVD even though I don't own a french bow.

Jan

[Snakewood]

Originally Posted by jheise

I don't think so, compared to the prices of lessons and the ground he's covering on the DVD.



I don't want to make this a debate on the details of Gary's technique. Your statement gives me the impression of you being close minded in regard to different playing techniques. If you are not a solo player in front of an orchestra, Gary's technique probably won't help you. But I like to know _everything_ about the bass I can - and the DVD certainly helped me a lot in regard to bowing and sound producing. I also own Rabbath's DVD even though I don't own a french bow.

Jan

I know personally a student of Gary's and he tells me that a lot of the stuff Gary shows him just doesn't work for him or any of his students. The guy is a virtuoso.

[jheise]

Originally Posted by Snakewood

I know personally a student of Gary's and he tells me that a lot of the stuff Gary shows him just doesn't work for him or any of his students. The guy is a virtuoso.

I rather try things for myself than rely on hearsay. I always take from my teachers what I need to develop myself - but I'm not limiting myself because of other peoples opinions. If you want to limit yourself - your choice. From your age and your profile I can see that you're probably a better player than I am, but you should work on your attitude.



Jan

[Snakewood]

Originally Posted by jheise

I rather try things for myself than rely on hearsay. I always take from my teachers what I need to develop myself - but I'm not limiting myself because of other peoples opinions. If you want to limit yourself - your choice. From your age and your profile I can see that you're probably a better player than I am, but you should work on your attitude.



Jan

there is no attitude, it's called an opinion. i don't think the dvd is worth the price as you may think it is, your opinion. neither is right or wrong. relax

[jheise]

Originally Posted by Snakewood

there is no attitude, it's called an opinion. i don't think the dvd is worth the price as you may think it is, your opinion. neither is right or wrong. relax

I'm fully relaxed. And you're entitled to your opinion. But as you wrote: it's the opinion of your friend - and not yours. So I still think it's your attitude on other peoples ideas you should work on. And that's really more meant to be a friendly comment and not to be meant as rude.

Try Gary's technique for your solo-pieces (that's what it's meant for) and if it's not working out for you - then write a critique.

Jan

[bassbuz]

Originally Posted by Snakewood

there is no attitude, it's called an opinion. i don't think the dvd is worth the price as you may think it is, your opinion. neither is right or wrong. relax

just to wade in here: whatever you think the dvd is worth (after having watched it or not - always fascinating to see people have opinions on things before hearing them..) the dvd is certainly not worth nothing.
as musicians, we should be the first to respect the intellectual property and copyright laws. as a rule, I don't copy cds or dvds. If I receive a burnt dvd that someone gives me saying, you should listen to this, I try it once, then I go buy the real thing.
nobody's work is worth nothing. bottom line.
buzz

[Jon Simonoff]

You could buy the DVD of the pieces in the DVD. I think it's like 50 dollars less. They are really enjoyable to watch and you can learn a lot from watching him play. But, I have the whole DVD and I recommend getting it.

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by bassbuz

...as musicians, we should be the first to respect the intellectual property and copyright laws. as a rule, I don't copy cds or dvds. If I receive a burnt dvd that someone gives me saying, you should listen to this, I try it once, then I go buy the real thing.
nobody's work is worth nothing. bottom line.

Stealing the product of another musician's work is illegal regardless of whether or not you agree with the message or technique the product touts.

[Alex Scott]

Even at $90 a pop, I bet Mr. Karr looses money on projects like this. If you want stuff like this to keep being available, you should pay.

[EFischer1]

Somehow I don't think that Mr. Karr really needs to worry about money...

That having been said. If you want the DVD, pay for it. Its worth it. But don't try to justify it by saying that lessons are more expensive. Its a DVD, not a teacher.

[zaghy]

Hey, why are you so harsh?

How about us who can't afford or live somewhere where nodody ships!



All I can offer is JEFF BRADETICH INSTRUCTIONAL DVD, and if anybody needs it, email-me.
zaghy[at]galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu

Not everybody live in civilisation, you know internet's that big.

[Alex Scott]

Why don't you write him an email and ask him to ship you one? He is nice, maybe he can help you out.

[mcnaire2004]

I think that $90 is a bit steep. You shouldn't compare it to a lesson because it can never substitue. The unique Edgar Meyer and Gary Karr tecniques are custom made by them for them. I think you should try and learn what you can about them and develope a tecnique by you for you.

[Snakewood]

I'm sorry I just think 90 dollars is ridiculous. Mr. Karr can certainly charge whatever he wants and you the buyer can purchase whatever you want for any price, but I certainly wouldn't indulge a man who owns a Rolse Royce (sp?), he seems very comfortable.