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Old 06-03-2008, 06:08 AM
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Wrist bending

I am by all means a newbie upright player, and as such i have a question for those with some wisdom,

Is having your left hand wrist at an angle while playing dangerous (CTS and whatnot)?

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Old 06-03-2008, 06:10 AM
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Depends.

We can talk all day around here about what is 'proper' but the TBDB mantra of "Get A Teacher" applies here. Basically somebody's gotta see what you are doing in person and give you some pointers.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:47 PM
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How extreme of an angle are we talking? Generally you're supposed to keep your wrists pretty straight, but a bit of an angle is okay I think. If you're playing with something like a 90 degree angle in your wrist every day though, bad news...
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:52 PM
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But at less than 86.4 degrees you are ok.

Sorry to sound like a sarcastic prick but I don't think this is a question that can be answered on the internet. An experienced teacher is the only one that can evaluate the total picture.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:00 PM
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Well I was exaggerating a bit, but my point is, I don't think an overly bent wrist is good for you, at all.

I know a teacher is best, but to at least give him some direction until he gets a teacher, if he doesn't have one.
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:26 PM
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In general, I find it's best to keep the wrist as straight as possible and rotate the shoulder/elbow out to facilitate as straight a playing angle as possible. Have you ever punched a heavy bag in the gym? Having a bend in the wrist while playing the DB is kinda like having one while hitting the heavy bag ... seems okay until it doesn't, and when it doesn't, man, it *really* doesn't seem okay. I'd aim for as little angle as possible. YMMV.
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:19 AM
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Matt and Chris are pointing you in the right direction. The reason why I refused to give suggestions is playing the bass incorrectly risks injury. A teacher or more advanced player needs to look at your technique. in person, and evaluate.

Everyone's body is different. I try for as little wrist angle as possible but I'd bet I am at about 25 degrees. I've seen some pretty heavy cats anywhere between totally straight and 45+ degrees. Point is there is no 'right' answer that we can give here without seeing you in person.
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:42 AM
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I am with Marc (good seeing you at the Bottle, thanks for coming).
Bending the wrist is not a great idea, but it could just be a symptom, the actual problem could be any number of places, which is why you need to get a teacher.
Not getting a teacher is dangerous (CTS and whatnot)!
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:04 AM
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Thanks guys.

I have a teacher but he does more or less the same thing, which gives me conflicting ideas, of my "common sense" and monkey see monkey do.
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:32 AM
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Then I'd go see a technique oriented guru. There are teachers in most cities that have the rep of being great at whipping your technique into shape. I don't mean to drop your current teacher if you like him. Just take a lesson or two with the technique guy to see what's up.

Great job 'toher night Damon. Really cool stuff. I really dig Guilermo. Always have. You sounded great.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:39 AM
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Yea that sounds like a good idea, i was considering lookin into that anyway.

I have noticed it's really only on the E where it occurs too.
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:50 PM
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stupid but wise answer

after having got CTS in both my left/right arms, i have learned if it hurts don't do it. a tight straight right arm/hand, is worse than a relaxed 90 angle between your wrist and arm, take the time to find whats natural for you. i think ever beginning player should start with five minute practice sessions and move up from there. its impossible to play correctly with tired hands or a tired body.
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