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Old 07-31-2008, 06:45 AM
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2nd Suite for Solo Cello/need your opinions

Hi there,

I am totally new to this forum, so I hope my post is okay...

Well, I'm a double bass student in the Netherlands. Next school-year, I have to give a lecture-recital.
I'm writing my paper about the different transcriptions that exist for the double bass, from the 2nd Suite by Bach

Now I was wondering if some of you want to share their opinion about whether or not to play the same octave/key as the cello and why/why not.

Thank you very much for your replies
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:05 AM
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Well, I just started the suite the other day at pitch. I say playing at pitch is best. The open strings and harmonics line up well.

The biggest challenge that I see other than general "chops" or bowing's from different editions. I would say the fact that many of the chords have a perfect 4th in them.
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:36 AM
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Here's another thought...

I play that one fifth down (written one fourth up), in G minor.

Lays really well on the bass, especially if you use extended fingerings, starting with the first finger on the G string's first D.

Some key moments, like the climax of the Prelude, for example, happen in the first thumb position, with the thumb on the octave. Handy.

Many harmonics can be used with this key, too.

My former teacher had me play the Suites transposed like this because:

- in this key, they lay in a place on the bass that corresponds to the place on the 'cello for which they were intended (roughly the same place on the instrument, that is to say).

- for the above reason, they let the bass speak well (longer string length).

- this key was a good place for me to start working on the Suites when I was a student; it got me playing Bach Suites without requiring me to have a prodigious thumb position technique (not that having monster TP is a bad thing!)

I used Janos Starker's bowings, initially, for the most part. I transposed by hand; the Sterling edition has some notes that don't agree with how I have heard most folks play them. Sometimes now, though, I play some movements with single bows and/or minimal notes per bow, unlike Starker's edition.

I started learning the Suites, like everything else, by singing/memorizing them, then with single bows to work out fingerings, then with open strings to get the right hand, then combining them.

Just another idea. Folks have many opinions on this issue...

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Old 07-31-2008, 10:02 AM
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Thank you both!

I am not sure if I want to play in the original pitch, as the bass might not sound so well anymore, in this region of the bass....I will however try it!

I was thinking about a-minor or g-minor, so this was a very helpful answer!
At the moment I'm still searching to find as many as possible different editions, also because of the different bowings...I do have the "urtext" (if it can be called that way) by Magdalena, and wanted to try these bowings. I listen a lot to the last recording by Janos Starker, so I will write down his bowings for sure!
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