Double Bass & Classical Guitar Music

[Paul Warburton]

Originally Posted by Kev2007

How am I confused? How am I showing a lack of respect?

I owe you one too, Kev.
Actually, I was confused. And I was guilty of being over sensitive in reading your post.
Old people do this once in a while.
Sorry, man.

[Kev2007]

Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua

Sorry, Kev, absolutely guilty of the quick skim. I read "...OP's (my) question..." and without checking thought that you were saying that YOU were the original poster. Mea culpa.

But the original poster wasn't specifically asking about the Wilder piece nor were they asking about pieces written specifically for this instrumentation. They play both classical guitar and bass and wanted to overdub. You can do that with anything, right?

It's not a forum to specifically discuss Alec Wilder's Suite for Bass and Guitar, it's not even a thread to discuss that and only that.

No worries, and no harm done. Thanks for the note, that shows character. I can understand the confusion - I was trying to scab onto a mid-thread reference to try to avoid cluttering the board. I should have started a new thread - my bad.

Anyway, now that I've re-read the OP, it does seem limiting in the context given. With the apparent dearth of published guitar/bass music, and the resources of studio and overdubbing, it strikes me that it would actually be easier to DIY arrangments in that situation. And more fun.

Back to the Wilder: background - I became intrugued with the piece after I read about it in Mary McPartland's book All in Good Time. She mentioned that the second movement is 'haunting'. I would have skimmed right over the work had it not been for her reference.

Tell you what -when/if I perform the Wilder I'll try to capture some audio/video to post so people can hear someone other than Gary Karr (the only recording I've found thus far of this piece) play it.

Peace,

Kev

[Ed Fuqua]

No worries.

In looking through the McPartland book I see a reference to a SUITE FOR BASS AND PIANO recorded by Gary Karr and Bernie Leighton, I didn't find out about the suite for guitar until I googled leighton and karr....

[koricancowboy]

Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua

CORIANCOUNTERBOY - I'm not talking about composition. I'm talking about not being able to conceptualize in the abstract how ANY composition would sound with the instrumentation that you as an individual perform with. Is that clear or unclear? Not writing reams of new material but simply hearing a (for example) sextet recording of tune and saying "Hey that would sound nice with the vibes duo I play with."

Instead of limiting yourself to only playing tunes you've heard other vibes/bass duos perform.

As I prefaced my original post, no disrespect intended but I urge you to reread it as I was not speaking of composition exclusively:

Originally Posted by koricancowboy

No disrespect intended but, not everyone wants to arrange or compose. I personally leave that up to arrangers and composers and just play.

Notice I used both arranging and composing references. Perhaps I've misunderstood the concept of arranging. But I thought that this;

Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua

Not writing reams of new material but simply hearing a (for example) sextet recording of tune and saying "Hey that would sound nice with the vibes duo I play with."

would be considered arranging.

Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua

Is that clear or unclear?

I am pretty confused now, so if you would please clear up how this differs from arranging I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

BTW, your play on my handle was clever.

[Ed Fuqua]

THANK YOU! Sometimes I have to try and sometimes they just come unbidden.

Yeah, arranging is as "invasive" as you want it to be, I don't really consider that different from just playing. If you're open to the moment, you just hear ****. You deciding you're gonna pedal through a section is "arranging", all I'm saying is that you don't have to rely on somebody else's precedent to play something.

Be all creative with it.