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07-30-2006, 10:22 AM
| | | | Edgar Meyer Published? Hey,
Does anybody know where you can buy Edgar Meyer's pieces. I've been looking around and can't find any of his compositions for bass anywhere. Is his stuff published?
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07-30-2006, 10:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN | | | A while ago I went searching for some of his compositions and I found out that he does not publish them. Then he has sole rights to performance (a slick business move). But he's not the only musician/composer to do that. I think Phillip Glass does the same.
On the other hand, Mark O'Connor's music is avaliable.
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07-30-2006, 02:49 PM
| | | | There is actually a copy of his bass concerto at the Northwestern Music Library. I have yet to see other works published, though. | 
07-30-2006, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kontrabass There is actually a copy of his bass concerto at the Northwestern Music Library. I have yet to see other works published, though. | And a copy in the score of the concerto. Me and a few others in my bass section were thinking of chipping in to rent the orchestra score to get it out of there.
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Originally Posted by Snakewood Hell man, we're bass players, I wouldn't trade this for anything. | | 
07-30-2006, 06:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chattanooga Tennessee | | | btw Does anyone know specificaly who rents it?
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Originally Posted by Snakewood Hell man, we're bass players, I wouldn't trade this for anything. | | 
07-30-2006, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kontrabass There is actually a copy of his bass concerto at the Northwestern Music Library. I have yet to see other works published, though. | You got me going to their music library website searching for it. Haven't found anything as far as Edgar Meyer or any bass concerto. But, I'm going to keep searching. I might even call.
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Originally Posted by Snakewood Hell man, we're bass players, I wouldn't trade this for anything. | | 
07-30-2006, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mcnaire2004 You got me going to their music library website searching for it. Haven't found anything as far as Edgar Meyer or any bass concerto. But, I'm going to keep searching. I might even call. | Available here.
There are far better concertos to worry about, though. Try finishing that Bottestini. | 
07-30-2006, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kontrabass Available here.
There are far better concertos to worry about, though. Try finishing that Bottestini. | I know... and I will. But, can't tell me it wouldn't be fun to fool around playing it a little right?
Edit: O yea thanks for the link.
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" Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes for a good performance" David Creel (Chattanooga Symphony Violinist) Quote: |
Originally Posted by Snakewood Hell man, we're bass players, I wouldn't trade this for anything. | | 
07-30-2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mcnaire2004 I know... and I will. But, can't tell me it wouldn't be fun to fool around playing it a little right? | Can't disagree there. | 
07-31-2006, 12:28 AM
| | | | there are a few of his bass parts on mark o connor's website. Limerock is an interesting bass+violin duet. | 
08-12-2006, 08:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX | | | I asked Edgar about this a number of years ago. From the horse's mouth:
You can look at the orchestral score all you want, the solo part isn't properly notated. It's written in such a way that a conductor can follow it, but a bassist wouldn't be able to pick it up and learn it. | 
08-12-2006, 08:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon | | Edgar's comments on publishing (Frompovich, A Talk with Edgar Meyer, 1997): "Eventually I'll be doing the piano and bass music. I'm not sure at what point I would publish the chamber music and concertos. Part of it is my temperament; I have a very, very hard hard time with performances with those pieces even when I am there and can guide every note. The idea of them going on when I'm not there guiding every note; it is very hard to imagine that they would come out in a way that even resembles (doesn't say what), A large percentage of the material I write today is involved with very specific ways of playing the instrument and sounds that I can hear in my head but I can't totally notate. But there are a lot of things in between the notes and not just nuances or pitch related things or slides. It is a whole sense of phrasing and timing that is important to these pieces. That phrasing and timing is very hard to get right. Even in performances when I'm there it is very hard to get it all played all that right. I'm not sure that this music lends itself to being played widely. I think it is very idomatic for the way I do things. I know it's a little strange but to me it's almost like a diary; it's what I've worked on and what I've done. It wasn't ever envisioned as something that would be played by a lot of people." http://www.boosey.com/ for some of his catalouge. | 
08-13-2006, 07:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chattanooga Tennessee | | | I guess I mite think the same thing. Have something you made played wrong isn't what you want. Then people will develope a sense of "Repitior" of how that piece is played that may not be how you intended it.
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Originally Posted by Snakewood Hell man, we're bass players, I wouldn't trade this for anything. | | 
08-13-2006, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mcnaire2004 Then people will develope a sense of "Repitior" of how that piece is played that may not be how you intended it. |
Huh? | 
08-13-2006, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by c44dashbass Huh? | I know there is a recording but, people will still come up with a way it "should" be played. They always do that with everything.
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Originally Posted by Snakewood Hell man, we're bass players, I wouldn't trade this for anything. | | 
08-13-2006, 11:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX | | | What Mcnaire has so eloquently said is that, despite Edgar having already published a recording of his own piece, somehow the standard or accepted style of performing it would be completely wrong. | 
08-13-2006, 12:17 PM
| | | I looked "repitior" up in the dictionary and couldn't find it. Thanks for clarifying.  | 
08-15-2006, 08:28 AM
| | | | Yeah, 'Repitior' isn't a word. Nor does it seem to be a misspelling...odd. What did you mean, Max?
Not sure how people could think that Edgar intended the piece to be played - he recorded them himself. That's him on those cds, you know. | 
08-15-2006, 10:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA | | | I think he was going for "repertoire". | 
08-15-2006, 11:02 AM
| | | | Yeah I was thinking about that, but that still doesn't make sense...*** is a 'sense of repertoire'?
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