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03-16-2005, 04:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | What a great website, thanks for the link. I like his writings.
I also discovered a great band name in Mike's bio, something he's involved with; called "Sons Of Bitches' Brew"  | 
03-16-2005, 07:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, UK | | | interesting and useful articles, thanks.
Provoked a theory question for me, though:
"A subtle, deep and sophisticated understanding of harmony and HOW the bass fits in (IE, knowing that one needs to focus on the F in an E/F chord or the chord doesn’t have the quality of being an E/F, and knowing that the B, C and G# are the next most important notes for the bass to emphasize)"
is the C in there as the 5th of the slash note (is that what you'd call the F in E/F?), or as a flattened 6th of E, or what? and why? | 
03-16-2005, 08:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | I love the Zilber article on Wynton and Ken!
Thanks for the link. I've really passed it around!
__________________ Oh, no.....have we gone OT yet again? "The opportunity was there...but it never presented itself." Phil Urso, 1980. :atoz: | 
03-16-2005, 10:01 AM
| | | | wow. He's good. I especially like the Wynton crtique. | 
03-16-2005, 10:07 AM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 287,10,202,80 | | | I took a class with Mike at the Jazz School in Berkeley a few years back. We were playing arrangements off of his most recent album (at that time). The stuff was really complicated...Giant Steps in 3 keys, Manteca in 7/8, Freedom Jazz Dance in 3/4. Cool arrangements, but harder than a m/f to play well. | 
03-16-2005, 12:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area (Chesapeake ) | | | "Wynton" Well, I read "Wynton" in Mr. Warburton's post in this thread and I immediately thought "Wynton Kelly." In my opinion, Wynton Marsalis still needs the surname next to his "Wynton." I guess I'm behind the times. And "Ken"...how about Kenny Burrell with Wynton? | 
03-16-2005, 05:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by ee-san Well, I read "Wynton" in Mr. Warburton's post in this thread and I immediately thought "Wynton Kelly." In my opinion, Wynton Marsalis still needs the surname next to his "Wynton." I guess I'm behind the times. And "Ken"...how about Kenny Burrell with Wynton? | Ya got a point there ee-san! Since we were on the subject, I thought I'd use first names only to save time. These two, IMO, don't deserve the respect that one usually means to be given to cats by using the old first name point of fondness. I am not fond of either person. They both have caused me great frustration. Both, mostly, by ignoring some of my favorite white players....in particular my old friend Bill Evans.
However, if you know anything about me or my background, you wouldn't attempting to be so critical of what I said....maybe you are a little "behind the times".
__________________ Oh, no.....have we gone OT yet again? "The opportunity was there...but it never presented itself." Phil Urso, 1980. :atoz:
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03-16-2005, 07:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area (Chesapeake ) | | | No criticism intended...I see, indeed expected, the point of view in your more recent post. I have a fair collection of Bill Evans myself, by the way. | 
03-17-2005, 03:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Helsinki, Finland | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by ee-san Well, I read "Wynton" in Mr. Warburton's post in this thread and I immediately thought "Wynton Kelly." In my opinion, Wynton Marsalis still needs the surname next to his "Wynton." I guess I'm behind the times. And "Ken"...how about Kenny Burrell with Wynton? | Here in TBDB Mr. Marsalis and Mr. Burns together are commonly known as "Kenton Burnsalis", introduced by Ed.
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