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01-29-2006, 08:19 AM
| | | | Repertoire with the Low B Hey, I'm curious as to what orchestral repertoire contains a Low B. I believe Resphigi's Pines does, and Berg's Wozzeck?
Anything else?
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01-29-2006, 09:48 AM
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01-29-2006, 11:13 AM
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01-29-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Jackson One of the Tchaikovsky symphonies, sorry don't know which one. | Probably 6th. I know it's not 4 or 5, and 6 is more likely than 1, 2, 3 based on the period. | 
01-29-2006, 12:45 PM
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01-29-2006, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Moote Probably 6th. I know it's not 4 or 5, and 6 is more likely than 1, 2, 3 based on the period. | I have two versions of his selected works, one of them the Oscar Zimmerman, the other is INTL publishers. Tchaikowsky never wrote below Contra E for the basses in his work. The lower notes were added in later by established orchestral bassists. | 
01-29-2006, 04:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | The college orchestra I play in just got a piece from a local composer, Mark Alburger. I've played a couple other of the guy's pieces before, and he has no clue what the range of any string instrument is, I swear. He writes good music, but the bass part to this suite we just got is almost literally unplayable, containing multiple low A's that would require a 5 stringer to tune down and all sorts of runs that arent possible unless you plant your thumb on D-string C. Other than that, I've never seen a low B. Outside of band music. which doesnt count.
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01-29-2006, 07:58 PM
| | | | Well in Band music the bass usually doubles the tuba or euphonium part if there isn't a specific string bass part. It may be possible that the composer wrote the Low A in ACTUAL pitch, and doesn't realize that bass music needs to be transposed one octave higher for the sanity of reading.
It's a possibility, OR...he may also be a terrible composer with no basic training in orchestration. | 
01-29-2006, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Snakewood I have two versions of his selected works, one of them the Oscar Zimmerman, the other is INTL publishers. Tchaikowsky never wrote below Contra E for the basses in his work. The lower notes were added in later by established orchestral bassists. | This confirms my thoughts. I wasn't going to argue when someone else thought he had done so however, so I speculated.
I was wrong :P | 
01-30-2006, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Moote This confirms my thoughts. I wasn't going to argue when someone else thought he had done so however, so I speculated.
I was wrong :P | it's all good
ps best tchaik symphony recordings = oslo phil with jansons!! especially no 6!@! | 
01-30-2006, 07:10 AM
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02-20-2006, 06:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany | | ok, maybe it´s not the right thread...it´s not about a low B, just a half step down...
today i´ve seen a bass-part of the cäcilien-messe from gounod.
in the bendictus there were several low Bbs
i dont know if this is original, it was an arrangement.
does somebody now the original score? | 
02-23-2006, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulCannon I think there's a Brahms Symphony where it can be done. It's not in the part, but it makes the most sense with the low B. | Brahms 2, I think; the opening is obviously designed to go down to D. 
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02-28-2006, 12:00 PM
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lots of Eb's near the closing.
Respighi's Pines of Rome. Low D's
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