16th-note fingerstyle funk

[Toronto Bassist]

I'm intrigued by this style, but so far there are only three bassists I can think of who use(d) it:

James Jamerson
Rocco Prestia (of course)
Jaco Pastorius

I think I've heard Tommy Shannon play in that style on occasion (with Johnny Winter), too. Are there any others?

[adube810]

alot of electronica/dancey type music uses 16th note rythmic patterns

[eeyorebass]

Any and all of James Brown's bass players could play a mean sixteenth feel. I think Bootsy gets the most credit for bringing that to JB's band, but Odum and the others had their moments.

Jeremy

[cdef]

Jerry Jemmott and Chuck Rainey.

[black.rose1402]

listen to some acid jazz stuff (incognito, brand new heavies...) have some serious grooves with 16th notes

[caligula]

Incognito and Brand New Heavies are great examples for 16th note funk.
Check out some of the Jamiroquai records, Robert Trujillo (yes, the Metallica bassist) uses 16th note grooves on the Infectious Grooves albums, especially the first one...can't remember the title, very interesting to hear this style in a heavy rock context.

And Gary Willis (Tribal Tech and his solo albums). Willis is the king of 16th note fingerfunk. Do yourself a favour and check Willis (e.g. Face First, Nite Club). Killer stuff.

[Toronto Bassist]

Originally Posted by caligula

And Gary Willis (Tribal Tech and his solo albums). Willis is the king of 16th note fingerfunk. Do yourself a favour and check Willis (e.g. Face First, Nite Club). Killer stuff.

Good idea, I never thought of looking to a fusion player (other than Jaco). Those references (Face First, Nite Club) - are those with Tribal Tech, or solo stuff?

[jerry]

Paul Jackson, one of the best ever.

[Toronto Bassist]

Did Jackson do just that one album with Herbie Hancock? (the one with Chameleon)

[bassist15]

Yea Paul Jackson player with Herbie alot in the 70's. Check out Headhunters and Thrust for his best work. Also if you can find it the album Flood is Headhunters live.

[caligula]

Originally Posted by Toronto Bassist

Good idea, I never thought of looking to a fusion player (other than Jaco). Those references (Face First, Nite Club) - are those with Tribal Tech, or solo stuff?

Face First and Nite Club are both Tribal Tech tunes. If you do a youtube search, you'll find them. Usually the sound is pretty bad but it gives you an idea.
Paul Jackson is one of Willis' main influences when it come to the 16th note funk.
I attended a Willis master class some 5 or 6 years ago, and he mentioned Paul Jackson, Rocco Prestia and Jaco as his main influences for the fingerfunk style.
There is a Willis book that includes transcriptions of most of his funky tunes....Gary Willis Collection....or something like that.

[Toronto Bassist]

oh hey, did someone say Paul Jackson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFcpBB4Yy_M

[HashbrownCOBM]

I use it all the time. But i didn't learn it from those dudes. I learned it from Karl Alverez and Bob Thompson. Descendents and Big Drill Car. Check'em out.

[jerry]

Originally Posted by HashbrownCOBM

I use it all the time. But i didn't learn it from those dudes. I learned it from Karl Alverez and Bob Thompson. Descendents and Big Drill Car. Check'em out.

I'm not the hippest dude in the world, but I have a buddy who loves the Descendents, when he played their CDs I always took notice of Alverez's very hip playing. I dug his album art too.

[kesslari]

Jeff Berlin likes to go to 16th feel fingerstyle funk-land, too, IIRC.

[HashbrownCOBM]

Originally Posted by jerry

I'm not the hippest dude in the world, but I have a buddy who loves the Descendents, when he played their CDs I always took notice of Alverez's very hip playing. I dug his album art too.

Yeah Karl is the man. Just be careful if you see him live, he tends to druel when he plays. I saw ALL (basically the descendents with a different singer) one time at the 7th street entry in minneapolis and it was packed so I ended up having to sit on the stage right under him and I got drueled on. Super fun though anyway.

[Ezbass]

Although played with a pick and not fingerstyle, Bobby Vega has that great 16th note funk feel down. He also depped for Rocco in TOP when Rocco was having his liver transplant. Check out http://bassplayer.tv/index.html?req=...ptv_vega_intro go to artist features, select Bobby Vega and then the picks section.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by kesslari

Jeff Berlin likes to go to 16th feel fingerstyle funk-land, too, IIRC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6at4jSG3cUc

[Alan Vorse]

Track down B.B. King's "Completely Well" disc, and check out Jerry Jemmott on "You're Losin' Me."

So many of Chuck Rainey's bass parts. Maybe start with "Kid Charlemagne" from Steelay Dan's "The Royal Scam."

[Buskman]

Here's a good Jemmott example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Loy55z4GpA

Doug Johns is a good one, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1h5JYRVsjg