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Old 02-25-2011, 05:10 AM
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Exclamation Antonio Quijano- Intervalic theoricist and player

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Hi this is my first post in this forum.
Just found this guy on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpjJYAW5r50
Never heard such kind of bass improvisation in jazz context.
He developed a theoric frame in the school of Schoemberg, Slomninski thing (not kidding), the secessionist method: http://www.secessionistmethod.com/
He has a couple of recordings with John Pattitucci and Eddie Gomez
Also developed his own technique for intervalic playing.
He spend some years studying 15-17 hours each day.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:19 AM
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The Secessionist Method of Composition is a system of thought instigated by the precepts of the Kaluza-Klein, Superstring, Supergravity and M-Theories. It is fueled by the principle that all the dimensions that hold up music can be factorized down to three parent dimensions: the Cognitive Dimension, the Oscillatory Dimension and the Spatial Dimension. To arrive at the conclusions that uphold the Secessionist Method of Composition, a deductive technique that incorporates art theory, philosophy and science was employed to mathematically intervene all three dimensions in order to formulate a doctrine that was able to scientifically prove that the primal powers of every preponderant theoretical proposition in music could be sustained within a common space-time, while retaining a plausible aesthetic inference. Its main propeller: The Secessionist Manifesto, labels these interventions (Abstract Tonality, Abstract Bitonality, Polysuspension and Dodecametrics) as the supreme solvents in which the limits of non-improvisation and the withdrawal from planned intention (the secessionist discourse) may be manifested. The Secessionist Method of Composition was devised by Antonio Quijano by coherently interlocking a series of philosophical and scientific precepts (Suprematism, Fredkin’s Paradox, Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle, and Gödel’s Theorem) in order to attain a logical description of the mechanisms that define an art form which borders the ceilings of human aural perception.
If you take out all the fluff words and boil down what's left you get

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also, if you read some of the samples of his books, you'll notice his solo in that clip is the exact opposite of what his books theorize.

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Old 02-25-2011, 09:48 AM
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The Secessionist Method of Composition is a system of thought instigated by the precepts of the Kaluza-Klein, Superstring, Supergravity and M-Theories. It is fueled by the principle that all the dimensions that hold up music can be factorized down to three parent dimensions: the Cognitive Dimension, the Oscillatory Dimension and the Spatial Dimension. To arrive at the conclusions that uphold the Secessionist Method of Composition, a deductive technique that incorporates art theory, philosophy and science was employed to mathematically intervene all three dimensions in order to formulate a doctrine that was able to scientifically prove that the primal powers of every preponderant theoretical proposition in music could be sustained within a common space-time, while retaining a plausible aesthetic inference. Its main propeller: The Secessionist Manifesto, labels these interventions (Abstract Tonality, Abstract Bitonality, Polysuspension and Dodecametrics) as the supreme solvents in which the limits of non-improvisation and the withdrawal from planned intention (the secessionist discourse) may be manifested. The Secessionist Method of Composition was devised by Antonio Quijano by coherently interlocking a series of philosophical and scientific precepts (Suprematism, Fredkin’s Paradox, Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle, and Gödel’s Theorem) in order to attain a logical description of the mechanisms that define an art form which borders the ceilings of human aural perception.
If I'm reading this correctly (this is the first I've ever heard of this guy & his method, so I could be way off base, I'm just going by that quote and what I'm inferring) it's similar to Joseph Maneri's concept of Motific Development, wherein the shape of musical gestures on both micro- and macro-scopic levels is used for the generation of related material.

...although Joe's concept used a whole lot less mystical mumbo-jumbo and a whole lot more music.
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Old 02-25-2011, 02:55 PM
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That text is pure gibberish...
Well, the guy has published its own thesaurus of 1258 books of intervalic patterns, surely written by an algorithm or something...
Anyway the solo is original Ive heard some people playing free over Softly, but he has other videos playing 31tet piccolo bass, and making free duets with John Pattitucci and Eddie Gomez.
Different, to say at least
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