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12-16-2006, 01:36 PM
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this might be a weird question but i was just wondering if there are any pros that use their eq shaped "A" instead of the "V" shaped scoop.
cuz at bassplayer live in ny just about all the pros i saw used the v. sorry i don know the correct terms... thanks guys! | 
12-16-2006, 02:05 PM
|  | ACME, Line 6, SWR, QSC, Greco user/BOSE PAS abuser | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Texas | | | Why the V shaped?
It's to do with sound and the bass played. Most basses have a certain "signature" sound with tone and volume wide open.
Most bass cabinets have trouble pushing power on the bottom and on the top...ESP cabinets that have no tweeter/horn and/or have no crossover.
The boost at the bottom(left side of the V) makes up for small combos or rigs that lack REAL bottom. Same for the right side of the V.....boosting highs. A LOT of what you see in eq and tone is an attempt to get a NON-FLAT RESPONSE speaker/system to sound flat OR like what the player prefers.
When you have flat or neutral-sounding speakers, a little bit of eq does a LOT. ACME speaker cabinets are very good about not "coloring" a sound. Use these and you EQ MAY end up being a "minus sign"(-----) instead of a V....
Using the "A" shape with standard amps/cabinets/basses would sound(depending on the eq center frequencies) like a bass wah pedal being used with it stuck in the center position....a sort of "honk" midrange-only sound. Good for solos(some) or unique sounds but not too potent for being a full sounding "bass".
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12-16-2006, 02:50 PM
| | | | i think that having the A shape cuts through better, bassists like flea and matt freeman prolly uses the A | 
12-16-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonBass i think that having the A shape cuts through better, bassists like flea and matt freeman prolly uses the A | Hmm, I wouldn't think so, Matt and Flea both have very 'twangy' live tones, meaning that they probably boost their higher freq. I believe Marcus miller used to use a VERY mid heavy tone and so did Paul D'Amour, the old bassist for tool. Don't quote me on that tho. | 
12-16-2006, 10:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: aberdeen nj | | | yeah on my video i have my low flat mids at 3 oclock and high 1 o clock thus making somewhat of an a shape but the active pickups seem to take away some mid from me still.... but i like the sound. and man i was 2 feet away from marcus at his clinic and i forgot how his eq looked... thats gonna kill me now... | 
12-19-2006, 11:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota | | | In my experience, players who use the "V" shape end up getting swallowed by the other players once the music starts up (Cough Newsted Cough). A recording engineer once told me that midrange is where all the "information" is.
I boost the low and low-mids and run highs pretty flat and I have no problem cutting through.
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12-19-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by f'nar f'nar Hmm, I wouldn't think so, Matt and Flea both have very 'twangy' live tones, meaning that they probably boost their higher freq. I believe Marcus miller used to use a VERY mid heavy tone and so did Paul D'Amour, the old bassist for tool. Don't quote me on that tho. | I always thought Marcus' tone was a scooped mid?! Flea uses loads of high mids I reckon but cuts some of the low mids | 
12-19-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Vorse In my experience, players who use the "V" shape end up getting swallowed by the other players once the music starts up (Cough Newsted Cough). A recording engineer once told me that midrange is where all the "information" is.
I boost the low and low-mids and run highs pretty flat and I have no problem cutting through. | Actually Newsted realized that broblem some where in the "Black album" era, when he discussed about the hes sound with Bob Rock.
He has since used very mid boosted (lowmid) sound.. listen Cunning Stunts and Load albums.. | 
12-19-2006, 12:28 PM
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12-19-2006, 12:35 PM
| | | | My EQ is usually flat (may sound more scooped though?) or shaped like an "A" (may sound more flat?)
...just to confuse the issue, I did some home recording this past weekend and had good results with my EQ shaped like an "M"
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12-19-2006, 01:07 PM
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12-21-2006, 01:02 PM
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12-21-2006, 03:10 PM
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12-22-2006, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TribalEagle Actually Newsted realized that broblem some where in the "Black album" era, when he discussed about the hes sound with Bob Rock.
He has since used very mid boosted (lowmid) sound.. listen Cunning Stunts and Load albums.. | Oh I know. I learned about boosted mids from an interview with him where he described the problem.
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12-22-2006, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by billbern Jack Bruce uses a "frown" setting on the graphic eq in his. | And that's the other person I learned about mids from.
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12-22-2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Bassincus Lemmy cuts lows & highs, boosts mids (that would be an "A) although I doubt he uses a graphic eq. | Not just 'cuts.' He removes them. On his marshall heads, Bass, off, Mids, max, treble, off. Now I love mids, but thats a perfect explination for why I've always hated his tone
If its a graphic EQ, then you'll see the frown look on mine. Low mids boosted the most, then high mids slightly lower, treble and bass are about even, just slightly below mids. I never stray too much from the flat setting. Knob wise nothing ever goes above 2 o'clock or so.
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12-23-2006, 02:07 AM
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