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11-10-2010, 07:19 PM
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Mick Karn comes to my mind. He doesn't lock in with the drummer, but his lines are magical.
Who are some other bassists who sound fantastic but don't lock in with the drummer?
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11-10-2010, 07:23 PM
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11-10-2010, 07:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN | | | can you post an example? of karn?
youtube maybe?
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11-10-2010, 08:21 PM
| | | | Steve Harris just runs wild with his gallops, and for the most part Robert Trujillo doesn't, but he mirrors the guitar lines really freaking good. That guy has some freaking fast fingers. |
11-10-2010, 08:23 PM
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11-10-2010, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by plangentmusic  | Well, do you mean on time with the drums, or follow the drum beat?
He and Nicko and on time, but Steve doesn't necesarily follow his beat. |
11-10-2010, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisk-K Mick Karn comes to my mind. He doesn't lock in with the drummer, but his lines are magical.
Who are some other bassists who sound fantastic but don't lock in with the drummer? | I like Jaco on In France They Kiss On Main Street. His line is so wild and so solid at the same time. It grooves very hard but is as free as a solo. Years of playing with that drummer helped. |
11-10-2010, 08:54 PM
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11-11-2010, 12:20 PM
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11-11-2010, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Steve Harris just runs wild with his gallops, and for the most part Robert Trujillo doesn't, but he mirrors the guitar lines really freaking good. That guy has some freaking fast fingers. | Considering that in Metallica even the drums follow the guitar, Bob's doing the proper thing there.
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11-11-2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisk-K Mick Karn comes to my mind. He doesn't lock in with the drummer, but his lines are magical.
Who are some other bassists who sound fantastic but don't lock in with the drummer? | With all due respect, methinks you have a very strange -- or perhaps a very narrow -- definition of "locking in with the drummer" if you don't think Mick Karn does it.
He doesn't articulate the exact same rhythm as the kick drum, but he's capable of a stone cold infectious groove that is tight & in the pocket, regardless of whether he's playing with Steve Jansen or Gavin Harrison or Terry Bozzio or a drum machine. His lines may not sound "normal", but to my definition of "locked with the drummer" they are chained & deadbolted. |
11-11-2010, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover With all due respect, methinks you have a very strange -- or perhaps a very narrow -- definition of "locking in with the drummer" if you don't think Mick Karn does it.
He doesn't articulate the exact same rhythm as the kick drum, but he's capable of a stone cold infectious groove that is tight & in the pocket, regardless of whether he's playing with Steve Jansen or Gavin Harrison or Terry Bozzio or a drum machine. His lines may not sound "normal", but to my definition of "locked with the drummer" they are chained & deadbolted. |
I'm a bit confused too.
Are we talking they aren't in time, or simply don't follow the drum beat?
If they aren't in time, they're on a different time signature or bad.  |
11-11-2010, 03:44 PM
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11-12-2010, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BigOldHarry a bassist that doesn't work with the drummer is... well, not much of a bassist to me. | Well, that's what the thread was about, so maybe you should have thought before posting. You've made your pedestrian tastes quite well-known here already. Quote: |
Originally Posted by frisbieinstein I like Jaco on In France They Kiss On Main Street. His line is so wild and so solid at the same time. It grooves very hard but is as free as a solo. | This. |
11-12-2010, 09:57 AM
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11-12-2010, 10:02 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City | | | I'll give ya an example:
"Sparkle" from Jamaaladeen Tacuma's Renaissance Man album. Despite the stellar names playing on this track (David Murray - sax, Vernon Reid - guitar, Bill Bruford - drums, & Tacuma on bass) it is a trainwreck from start to finish. Between the fact that Tacuma plays waaaay in front of the beat on almost everything he does, coupled with Bruford's strangely stiff/square approach to "swing", the drums & bass are about as locked as the safety on Dylan Klebold's assault rifle. I.e., not.
Oh, wait, OP specified "bassists who sound fantastic" ...nevermind.
Last edited by Hoover : 11-12-2010 at 08:53 PM.
Reason: stupid typo!
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11-12-2010, 10:08 AM
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11-12-2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BigOldHarry a bassist that doesn't work with the drummer is... well, not much of a bassist to me. | This.
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11-12-2010, 01:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boston MA | | | If Mic Karn EVER ignored a bass drum it's because IT was out. Mic has an impeccable time sense. I never once even heard a mistake in time by him. He's actually (apart from Jaco) the bass player with the deepest time & groove sense I've ever heard. It's INTERNAL.
When I've seen him live I'm struck by how disciplined he is Even when his lines sound wiggly, that left hand is like a fascist dictator of precision, then his articulation adds the vocal vibrato, but Never Never is he Off The Beat!!!! | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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