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06-26-2008, 01:56 PM
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Hey all,
So I'm thinking about this thing pretty long: "Why can't we hear the bass in metal music." I mean come on, the bassists at most bands is just a backing tool to make it thicker which is not THAT interesting to play.
So now, do you know bands with bassists that are there to be heared, just like the guitar and drums. That add something to the music they make. Just an equal part of the band with equal sound.
I'll start:
Steve Harris (Iron Maiden) Invaders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFpIR7Fdu-Q
Ryan Martinie (Mudvayne) Not Falling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og3qsy4pCaw
Cliff Burton (Metallica) The Four Horseman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyq55YzJY3o
(Gotta add that he is backing the guitar here for the most part, but he is very hearable, that counts also :P)
Hope to hear some cool songs 
-Ramy |
06-26-2008, 01:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tennessee | | | a lot of system of a down songs have a predominate bass line and some you have to kind of search for it. Its easy because 3 out of 4 people in the band play an instrument so no rhythm guitar which helps a lot. |
06-26-2008, 02:06 PM
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06-26-2008, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 stringed fury  a lot of system of a down songs have a predominate bass line and some you have to kind of search for it. Its easy because 3 out of 4 people in the band play an instrument so no rhythm guitar which helps a lot. | System of a down has some parts in it, but most of the time the distorted guitar makes it impossible to hear, but still an awesome band. Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho | Great, he still played finger there! Too bad he stopped that.
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06-26-2008, 05:38 PM
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06-26-2008, 05:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio | | | Steve Harris' P Bass always cuts through on pretty much every Iron Maiden tune I've heard. Also, you have to give Geddy Lee props on his singing/playing ability and being heard over all those synths and guitar.
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06-26-2008, 08:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tacoma, WA | | | I like how you called Mudvayne metal and instantly killed the momentum of a potentially great metal thread. To pick that back up, here are a few good metal bassists that aren't in Mudvayne:
Markus Grosskopf of Helloween- Check out "Eagle Fly Free" or "Guardians" for his old sound and for his new tone try out "Mrs God," "Dreambound", or "Just a Little Sign."
Dirk Schlachter of Gamma Ray- check out "Into The Storm," "Beyond the Black Hole" or "Leaving Hell" for some good examples.
The bassist of Italy's Cydonia(kind of obscure band, don't know the bassists name)- "Legend in Time" or "Land of Life" are good examples
Ian Hill of Judas Priest-On the newest album "Nostradamus" he got a great cutting tone.
Jari Kainulainen of Stratovarius-Check out the albums Visions and Episode, had a good deep and growly bass tone that is easy to hear.
Patrice Guers of Rhapsody (of Fire)-Most of what he does cuts through pretty well, not as good as other bands but considering he cuts through an entire symphony orchestra he does a decent job...that dude has got some chops too. He only played on the 2 most recent albums...but the other 2 bassists in the band did a decent job too. I like this guy because he did it all with a 4 string.
Felipe Andreoli of Angra-This man is damn good. He is the one that got me into metal bass (excluding Steve, because I always loved Maiden...my love of metal however came years later) . Listen to "Nova Era," "Waiting Silence," and "Temple of Hate"
The thing about sticking out in metal is not only does the bassist support the tones of the guitarists which are often overpowering, but because of metal's speed and focus on the bass drum, the other ally of the bass its really easy for the thick guitars and relentless bass drum to bury the bass. The 2 ways to be heard are to either be LOUD (or mixed properly) or to have a really wierd way of playing, old Markus Grosskopf is my favorite example of the latter.
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06-26-2008, 08:15 PM
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When i saw them live (last friday!!!) the bass was nearly as loud as the vocals. (very loud) |
06-26-2008, 08:18 PM
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Brent Riggs from Job for a Cowboy
Nick from As Blood Runs Black
Liam Wilson from The Dillinger Escape Plan
Mike D from Killswitch Engage
Jake Shultz from Norma Jean
and i cant think of anymore
maybe the newer stuff from as i lay dying with that Josh guy.
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06-26-2008, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ampeg SVT Brent Riggs from Job for a Cowboy
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On entombment of a machine when hes doing that solo-type thing at the start, you can hardly even hear the notes |
06-26-2008, 08:27 PM
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he's a bad mother
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06-26-2008, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tom once dead Only when he does the big slides, which clips the speakers.
On entombment of a machine when hes doing that solo-type thing at the start, you can hardly even hear the notes | Really?
i just use my ipod and i can hear it fine. im using bose earpieces if that makes any difference however live he gets a great tone from those "wicks"
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06-26-2008, 08:34 PM
| | I'll take you into the water. | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane QLD Australia | | | yeah, good tone. but needs to be louder.
even listening with a sub its just a low rumble |
06-26-2008, 08:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Burlington, NJ | | | Steve Digiorgio in Control Denied.
Sean Malone in Cynic.
Sami Hinkka in Rapture.
I highly recommend these three bands. |
06-26-2008, 08:36 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada | | | Byron Stroud (Strapping Young Lad, Fear Factory). Great metal tone and can always be heard. One of my favorites for sure. |
06-26-2008, 08:39 PM
| | I'll take you into the water. | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane QLD Australia | | | +1 |
06-26-2008, 08:46 PM
| | | | Seconding Ryan Martinie. Also Jason Newstead from the Black Album onwards and Geezer Butler. |
06-26-2008, 08:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jackson, MO | | | Billy Gould from Faith No More had a lot of songs where the bass was featured... rather, showcased in the melody.
Duff from G'n'R had a lot of cool basslines that stood out from the mix (he had the cool 80's metal Hartke tone kickin', too.)
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06-26-2008, 08:53 PM
| | Son, I am disappoint. | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Gig Harbor, Washington | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tom once dead yeah, good tone. but needs to be louder.
even listening with a sub its just a low rumble | yeah i can agree when listening on a stereo or something it sounds terrible
if it was louder that would be great.
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