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09-02-2009, 07:33 PM
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Me and a fellow BP friend got in a debate on whether Victor should be added to this list. I didn't think so, but he thinks I'm a fool for not thinking so. While I had no real reasons for thinking the way I do since I'm not up on music history, I just wholeheartedly didn't think so. He is one of the greatest bassists without a doubt, I just don't think he belongs in THAT category.
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09-02-2009, 07:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA | | | I think that Wooten is definitely in "THAT category."
(The category IS "men who have never been in my kitchen," isn't it?) |
09-02-2009, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaxx  Me and a fellow BP friend got in a debate on whether Victor should be added to this list. I didn't think so, but he thinks I'm a fool for not thinking so. While I had no real reasons for thinking the way I do since I'm not up on music history, I just wholeheartedly didn't think so. He is one of the greatest bassists without a doubt, I just don't think he belongs in THAT category.
What do you guys think? | No. Does Wooten compose symphonies? Williams on the other hand...
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09-02-2009, 07:53 PM
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09-02-2009, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Disappear Williams on the other hand... | Absolutely. I think that future generations will look back at John Williams work and see the genius. The man is an amazing composer.
I as much as I love Vic's playing I don't think that his musical composition and arrangement is in "that category."
His playing OTOH....
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09-02-2009, 07:57 PM
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09-02-2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by two fingers I can't think of any category under which all of these men fall." | That's the problem I have. Quote:
Originally Posted by Febs (The category IS "men who have never been in my kitchen," isn't it?) | Sorry Febs, wrong category. I don't think there's enough space here to fill THAT category.
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09-02-2009, 08:37 PM
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Of course, as had been said already they made different styles of music, and existed in completely different eras of music with a couple hundred years' difference, so it's pretty much impossible to compare them.
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09-02-2009, 08:57 PM
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09-02-2009, 09:02 PM
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09-02-2009, 09:05 PM
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09-03-2009, 03:19 AM
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or: oranges and carrots.
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09-03-2009, 03:46 AM
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09-03-2009, 04:09 AM
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09-03-2009, 04:23 AM
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09-03-2009, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by phatbass I guess I better chime in with another "no way his compositions are anywhere near that level". I love the dude's playing but I think his compositions are very ordinary - even forgettable if the playing wasn't on such a stellar level. | "Compositions" ?? |
09-03-2009, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cnltb "Compositions" ?? | A composition is a piece of music without lyrics or a vocal melody. Wooten's music would mainly fall under that category.
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09-03-2009, 11:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: US | | | Victor is a great performer. The others mentioned are historically significant composers. 100 years from now (heck really today) no one but musicians will know about Vic, while the others will still be loved household names. I love his playing, but in the grand scheme of things he is not all that important.
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09-03-2009, 11:54 AM
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