Chris Squire vs Geddy Lee - Page 7

gumbynotpokey · #**121** 11-10-2012, 09:49 AM

Impossible. Thread should be "Chris Squire AND Geddy Lee".

DigitalMan · #**122** 11-10-2012, 07:27 PM

I'm still wrapping my head around the distinction between unconventional and unorthodox. Perhaps that sums it up the best anyway.

retyu33 · #**123** 11-12-2012, 04:12 AM

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Cliff williams

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hairyhaw · #**124** 11-12-2012, 08:43 AM

I think Squire was the more intelligent player but as someone else pointed out, he's been resting on his laurels. I'd agree - he hasn't broken any new ground since Tormato and his playing and use of the Mu-tron III on that record are still a revelation IMO. But he's a guy in his sixties now - maybe he's content that way.

I only discovered Rush recently as I was on the cusp of joining a Rush tribute band so had to take the time to look at his playing. My take was Geddy has a great tone, but I do think he's a relatively straightforward player - nothing like as abstract as Squire was in his day.

This is a strange debate though; It's a bit like saying who's better; Obi-wan Kenobi (Enwistle), Anakin Skywalker (Squire) or Luke Skywalker (Geddy)?

Marley's Ghost · #**125** 11-12-2012, 09:16 AM

My vote for Squire. He and Macca were my first heroes and influenced me to take up the bass. I have a 4001 CS in the mid 70's and actually played in a prog cover band that covered a fair amount of Yes material.

I had lots more free time then.

bill reed · #**126** 11-12-2012, 09:41 AM

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This is a strange debate though; It's a bit like saying who's better; Obi-wan Kenobi (Enwistle), Anakin Skywalker (Squire) or Luke Skywalker (Geddy)?

Jack Bruce (Darth Vader). Tal Wilkenfeld's (Princess Leia)

Rickengeezer · #**127** 11-12-2012, 10:36 AM

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Jack Bruce (Darth Vader). Tal Wilkenfeld's (Princess Leia)

Greg Lake (Jabba the Hutt)?

Sorry.....

Duke21 · #**128** 11-12-2012, 10:37 AM

Squire is master Joda even though he seem to be much taller.

rockosocko · #**129** 11-12-2012, 10:43 AM

For me, this is matter of apples and oranges. Both are great players of enourmous talent and have very distinct, individual styles.

bill reed · #**130** 11-12-2012, 10:45 AM

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For me, this is matter of apples and oranges. Both are great players of enourmous talent and have very distinct, individual styles.

agree that they both are diffrent!!!! it the same as comparing Jack Bruce to Paul McCartney. both really good but so diffrent.

Jawbone · #**131** 11-12-2012, 11:01 AM

Should have been a pole.

But YES and Chris Squire got me through high school. Squire's why i fell in love wioth the RIC sound. Rush was there but always thought Peart was the man in that band, never thought to much of geddy. Nobody can master Peart's crazy timing.

Duke21 · #**132** 11-12-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hairyhaw

I think Squire was the more intelligent player but as someone else pointed out, he's been resting on his laurels. I'd agree - he hasn't broken any new ground since Tormato and his playing and use of the Mu-tron III on that record are still a revelation IMO. But he's a guy in his sixties now - maybe he's content that way.

I only discovered Rush recently as I was on the cusp of joining a Rush tribute band so had to take the time to look at his playing. My take was Geddy has a great tone, but I do think he's a relatively straightforward player - nothing like as abstract as Squire was in his day.

This is a strange debate though; It's a bit like saying who's better; Obi-wan Kenobi (Enwistle), Anakin Skywalker (Squire) or Luke Skywalker (Geddy)?

You can say the same thing about Geddy which is also "old" and plays only Fenders today. Chris actually plays many type of basses today even though his main bass is still the Rickenbacker.

Hamlet7768 · #**133** 11-12-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke21

You can say the same thing about Geddy which is also "old" and plays only Fenders today. Chris actually plays many type of basses today even though his main bass is still the Rickenbacker.

On the other hand, Geddy has changed his style radically since he re-adopted his Fender, with that stupid-fast flamenco stuff. Not to mention how his voice has matured.

Duke21 · #**134** 11-13-2012, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet7768

On the other hand, Geddy has changed his style radically since he re-adopted his Fender, with that stupid-fast flamenco stuff. Not to mention how his voice has matured.

Same goes for Chris. You would be surprise how much finger playing Squire use in The Syn,

SquireMan4001 · #**135** 02-17-2013, 10:59 AM

As a long-time Squire fan, this pains me to say it, but Squire isn't in Geddy's class.

Maybe up until the mid to late 70's, Squire was still on top, but that's part of the problem. Whereas Chris never really went anywhere from there, Geddy continued to explode. I guess you could say the same thing about Yes in general. They went from most progressive to most stagnant. The players in Rush took the baton from Yes and have continued growing and increasing in musicianship every year.

Where they stand now, it's painful to even think about Squire "vs" Lee. You watch any Rush concert DVD, you see a Master on top of his form. He can sit in the groove, he can play up front, he can play funky, and he can shred.

I just watched Yes Symphonic, and I see an old man noodling. It's absolutely cringe-worthy. What happened to Chris Squire from '75?

4001 · #**136** 02-17-2013, 11:07 AM

Geddy, by a nose.

Kmonk · #**137** 02-17-2013, 11:12 AM

I have never liked Yes but I do like Rush. I like Geddy's playing better but that doesn't mean that I consider him to be any better or worse than anyone else. Why does everything always have to be one player vs another? Why can't we just enjoy the fact that there are many talented musicians, each of whom have their strong points?

Sonicfrog · #**138** 02-17-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rekesbass

I choose not to decide......hmmmm.......I guess I still made a choice.....

Dangit! Beat me to it!

4001 · #**139** 02-17-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jawbone

Should have been a pole.

Firepole?
Batpole?
Flagpole?
Stripper pole?

Duke21 · #**140** 02-17-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SquireMan4001

As a long-time Squire fan, this pains me to say it, but Squire isn't in Geddy's class.

Maybe up until the mid to late 70's, Squire was still on top, but that's part of the problem. Whereas Chris never really went anywhere from there, Geddy continued to explode. I guess you could say the same thing about Yes in general. They went from most progressive to most stagnant. The players in Rush took the baton from Yes and have continued growing and increasing in musicianship every year.

Where they stand now, it's painful to even think about Squire "vs" Lee. You watch any Rush concert DVD, you see a Master on top of his form. He can sit in the groove, he can play up front, he can play funky, and he can shred.

I just watched Yes Symphonic, and I see an old man noodling. It's absolutely cringe-worthy. What happened to Chris Squire from '75?

Same thing can be said about Geddy past Moving Pictures, not by me but many others.
Old man noodling? He plays just as good now as he did in the 70s, it is not his fault his pick technique is so good that it looks so easy.
On Yes Symphonic Chris plays Close to the edge and The Gates of Delirium. He rocks on both.

While Geddy's playing is great through all the years his tone went from good to worse, well until Clockwork Angles where his Moving Pictures tone came back.
Chris's tone is always great, and his playing is always very precise and have lots of dynamics. He also kept his voice better.
For me, I love both, and both gets older but still both of them are just as magical as always.