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10-24-2006, 06:21 PM
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I was reading his website and came across this bit of info in the 4th Paragraph in his Biography...................... "Without any argument, he is the most recorded bass player in the history of recorded music and is the most imitated by bass players as a whole."
I had heard of him quite a bit, but did not know he had such a big history of recording with people. Just goes to show you, you hear so much about certain bass players being the "The best bass player of all time" or how fast someone can play etc...but many bass players who have been around for a LONG TIME, dont seem to get their fair props, nor do they seem to complain about it, but somehow, the conversation usually will turn full circle and by the end of the day, end up where it should be, i.e...discussing those who have been doing it for quite some time. More cats like Nathan East, and Nathan Watts, Bob Babbitt are just a few more I can think of as well, but this thread is about Chuck 
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10-25-2006, 05:56 AM
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What a statement.
Why, yes, Chuck has been on a great many records. The most recorded bass player ever? Not sure about that, but maybe. But "the most imitated"? No chance.
I know the guy is a serious player and knows who to lay down a damn solid groove, but I really don't think he is the most imitated. What about the Jacos, Wootens, Fleas and Paul McCartneys of this world? |
10-25-2006, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris2112 Wow.
What a statement.
Why, yes, Chuck has been on a great many records. The most recorded bass player ever? Not sure about that, but maybe. But "the most imitated"? No chance.
I know the guy is a serious player and knows who to lay down a damn solid groove, but I really don't think he is the most imitated. What about the Jacos, Wootens, Fleas and Paul McCartneys of this world? |
You might see a lot of people trying to cop Jaco, Wooten, and Flea in a music store, but I bet he is the most imitated by working bassists. How many Xerox Wootens have you seen that actually play in bands with that style? I'd guess none.
Not that I think it's possible to quantify his argument, mind you. And, I'd guess that he didn't actually do the webwork or bio himself, either.
In any event, I'll ask him about it next week in Dallas.  |
10-25-2006, 06:41 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | Well, perhaps, but then, as you have said, it's impossible to quantify this arugment.
And I still balme Chuckfor making me GAS for a Warwick Streamer Stage II! |
10-25-2006, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fire-Starter More cats like Nathan East, and Nathan Watts, Bob Babbitt are just a few more I can think of as well, but this thread is about Chuck | Joe Osborne, James Jamerson, Paul McCartney, Carol Kaye would top this list (as most recorded), but, like you said, this thread is about Chuck Rainey, who's "right in there". What a career, a talent and fortunate for us, immortalized on tape. |
10-26-2006, 04:02 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | | he recorded "i want you "from marvin gaye ,allong with wilton felder .they both play heavenly their jamerson thing and the whole album is a pure gem .i've listen this record so many times but i 'm never be able to know wich play on wich tracks .i would know any info or advice on that . |
10-26-2006, 10:05 AM
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10-26-2006, 10:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY | | I just did a http://www.bn.com search for a few bassists to see who has more recording credits:
Rainey = 198 titles
Jamerson = 44 titles
Kaye = 69 titles
I'm sure that every recording is not listed, but just look at the numbers.
If Rainey is in fact one of the most recorded bassists, then he is probably the most imitated bassist. If you're playing a hit song that he recorded a bass line for, then you are imitating him. Make sense?
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10-26-2006, 10:26 AM
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McCartney = 164 titles
Stanley Clarke = 130 titles Leland Sklar = 296 titles Winner so far!!!
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10-26-2006, 10:30 AM
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10-26-2006, 11:33 AM
| | | | I like B&N...but really, they are not the right tool for this exercise.
I'm a huge Rainey fan...back in the '80s, I noticed that East began playing on the gigs I would usually associate with Rainey. It seemed like a natural baton-pass to me.
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10-26-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JimK I like B&N...but really, they are not the right tool for this exercise. | Yes, probably not a fair comparison. Certainly, Jamerson, Kaye and Osborne didn't get official credit on many of the recordings they did.
By the way, check out this video to watch Chuck Rainey tell a great, funny story about the recording of Steely Dan's "Peg". Good stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0JpBzi68E
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10-26-2006, 11:43 AM
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10-26-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Vandelay Yes, probably not a fair comparison. Certainly, Jamerson, Kaye and Osborne didn't get official credit on many of the recordings they did.
By the way, check out this video to hear Chuck Rainey tells a funny story about the recording of Steely Dan's "Peg". Good stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0JpBzi68E | This was certainly a good video, and it goes to show you how when you listen to each instrument by itself, it does not sound like much, but put it altogether, and BAM! nice groove, the whole nine yards...I do like the part about how he eased in his slap line, and that was back then! think if that were Wooten  Yup,,,,good video!
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10-26-2006, 12:40 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dallas, TX. | | | One thing I will say, Chuck remembers every studio session he's ever done with amazing clarity. Its almost scary. Some of the other folks that claim this title have fuzzy memories, or claim recordings that are credited to other people (namely Chuck). I suppose we will never know for sure, but I'll take Chucks word for it hehe. |
10-26-2006, 01:17 PM
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10-26-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bassmonkeee You might see a lot of people trying to cop Jaco, Wooten, and Flea in a music store, but I bet he is the most imitated by working bassists. How many Xerox Wootens have you seen that actually play in bands with that style? I'd guess none.
Not that I think it's possible to quantify his argument, mind you. And, I'd guess that he didn't actually do the webwork or bio himself, either.
In any event, I'll ask him about it next week in Dallas. | That comment about being copied by working bassists is one of the coolest things I have ever read in TB. I certainly know of guys who seem to have made "careers" of sitting in music stores, playing loudly, letting everyone know they can play "______" style licks. I don't know of any of those guys who actually plays for anyone.
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10-26-2006, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gingerbeer he recorded "i want you "from marvin gaye ,allong with wilton felder .they both play heavenly their jamerson thing and the whole album is a pure gem .i've listen this record so many times but i 'm never be able to know wich play on wich tracks .i would know any info or advice on that . | From the recording "I Want You" by Marvin Gaye,Chuck played Bass on the tracks I want You and After the Dance.Frank Blair also played on a few tracks from that recording as well as the mentioned Wilton Felder.
and yes Chuck does indeed with passion remember just about every recording session he's played on. |
10-26-2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JimK I like B&N...but really, they are not the right tool for this exercise.
I'm a huge Rainey fan...back in the '80s, I noticed that East began playing on the gigs I would usually associate with Rainey. It seemed like a natural baton-pass to me. | I agree. I was just looking for something concrete at the moment. I was on my lunch break. It's the only place I could think of without hurting myself.
What do you think a better resource would be?
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