Cliff Burton - Page 25

FC Bass · #**481** 04-13-2007, 12:59 PM

That's easy, just record some sound clips on your pc and put it on your website's server...
Much easier than trying to explain what the big deal with Cliff Burton is

NKUSigEp · #**482** 04-13-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ;96029

Stop this idolizing of a dead thrash bassist!
Yes he was good, yes he inspired a lot people. But for gods sake he wasn't Jaco or anything... Jason does his job good enough and I don't see any reason compering the two. Jason has proven very versitile... I'm sure he could play any style if he wanted to.
I've been a big fan of metallica since 198...? And I think "and justice for all..." is the best album, followed by "master of puppets" and "the black album". I had "Kill em all", but I recently sold it since I didn't find a single reason to keep it. I still have the cliff em all video though.

Stop this idolizing of a dead jazz bassist! I don't think Jaco was that great. He did something a little bit different for his time and was given his own model of Fender bass postmortem. So what?

Jaco = Apples
Cliff = Oranges

You can't compare the two. If you put Jaco in any kind of metal band he would have failed miserably.

JeffTheBig · #**483** 04-16-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NKUSigEp

Stop this idolizing of a dead jazz bassist! I don't think Jaco was that great. He did something a little bit different for his time and was given his own model of Fender bass postmortem. So what?

Jaco = Apples
Cliff = Oranges

You can't compare the two. If you put Jaco in any kind of metal band he would have failed miserably.

well said i kinda agree with ya

#**484** 04-16-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NKUSigEp

If you put Jaco in any kind of metal band he would have failed miserably.

That said, Sean Malone has never bombed too hard in any metal project he's played in.

TyronPotamkin · #**485** 04-17-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by moogboy

i got a question. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL WITH CLIFF BURTON? i do everything that he does in the Youtube vids playing-wise without thinking about it.

Would you still be doing everything you do without knowing who he was, what he did, how he did it? If so, congrats, you'd probably be the next "great" that no one knows. Don't boil over, 90% of good bass players will become the next great that no one knows and I'm one of them. I'll be happy if people some how know who I am outside of my home town.

This part if for the rest of the posters who are complaining about Cliff using distortion and wah saying that he is a no talent jerk off that uses effects to cover up a sloppy style. I can pretty much garuntee that none of his teachers allowed him to use any kind of overdrive or distortion in his teachings, it was class, not a show off contest.

And what makes it so right and accepted for guitar players to use distortion, overdrive, wah, delay, reverb, chorus, flange, phaser, and any other effect on the market but it's so taboo for a bass player to use any kind of effect at all regardless if it's a compressor to smooth a tone or full bore, face melting distortion. My point is this, effects are used to make a passage's sound come to life so to speak, if you play a line that calls for a wah pedal and you play it without one, it doesnt sound right, it loses its "life". Effects used wisely have great impacts on the songs that they are used in, whether it's a solo, the entire song, or just a small part. Cliff's solo is the most he ever used his wah and distortion in any one sitting, they were used sparingly everywhere else in his work, in live settings yes he did use them more but not as much as he is being flamed for.

moogboy · #**486** 04-17-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TyronPotamkin

Would you still be doing everything you do without knowing who he was, what he did, how he did it? If so, congrats, you'd probably be the next "great" that no one knows. Don't boil over, 90% of good bass players will become the next great that no one knows and I'm one of them. I'll be happy if people some how know who I am outside of my home town.

i started doing that stuff after i learned the intro to Heart Of The Sunrise and listening to the Who Live At The Royal Albert Hall bass solo. i hadnt even heard Cliff until i started reading this thread. i havent learned any songs in about 1 month. i started reading this thread about the time when someone posted a vid of Cliff, Jason and Rob.

PrimusNut · #**487** 04-19-2007, 05:36 PM

I don't understand why people don't like that others idolize Cliff. He was great, and influenced most, if not all future metal bassists, in some way or another. I don't liike Jaco, simply because I don't like the kind of music he played. I think its you shallow-minded f**ks who think that thrash metal requires no skill that don't like Cliff. He intimidates you, proves that a metal bassist can be good, even as good as your precious jazz/funk bassists. I think a good point to bring up here would be that Stanley Clarke was one of Cliff's biggest influences, along with a lot of classical pianists. Cliff was great, Jaco was great, and whoever else you idolize is/was great, to YOU. It is all personal preferance.

I can't understand why when some people see a thread about Cliff, or any other bass "god" they don't like, they can't stop themselves from making a post JUST to flame the bassist and his/her fans. Why can't you people just not post? We all know there are people out there who don't like certain bass Gods, we don't need you to flame our metal bass hero.

That said, RIP Cliff, I don't think anyone will influence me as much as you have.

JoelH · #**488** 04-19-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimusNut

I don't understand why people don't like that others idolize Cliff. He was great, and influenced most, if not all future metal bassists, in some way or another. I don't liike Jaco, simply because I don't like the kind of music he played. I think its you shallow-minded f**ks who think that thrash metal requires no skill that don't like Cliff. He intimidates you, proves that a metal bassist can be good, even as good as your precious jazz/funk bassists. I think a good point to bring up here would be that Stanley Clarke was one of Cliff's biggest influences, along with a lot of classical pianists. Cliff was great, Jaco was great, and whoever else you idolize is/was great, to YOU. It is all personal preferance.

I can't understand why when some people see a thread about Cliff, or any other bass "god" they don't like, they can't stop themselves from making a post JUST to flame the bassist and his/her fans. Why can't you people just not post? We all know there are people out there who don't like certain bass Gods, we don't need you to flame our metal bass hero.

That said, RIP Cliff, I don't think anyone will influence me as much as you have.

+1

well said

FC Bass · #**489** 04-19-2007, 09:28 PM

xXxXBassistXxXx · #**490** 05-31-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoelH

+1

well said

I say +3, that was great

Cliff is one of my main 3 influneces (John Entwhistle, Cliff Burton, and John Paul Jones). I'm only 13, but I've been playing for four years so my style is already well developed, but ever-changing.

Nolifer · #**491** 06-01-2009, 03:27 AM

To me, Cliff is an idol, an ideal and the closest thing to a god that I have.
I used to really love all of Metallica's stuff but lately, I've felt that the real Metallica died soon after Cliff...

SMILEYSIXX · #**492** 01-26-2010, 05:49 PM

Jason killed Metallica. Throwing it out there. Rob shouldn't be playing in Metallica because no one appreciates the bass in Metallica songs since he started playing.

Back to the topic at hand. Cliff was one of the most influential metal bassists in my opinion and created a lot of good metal bassists and inspires even today. Without cliff, I wouldn't be playing metal.

mtvblows · #**493** 06-30-2010, 08:20 PM

that episode of mtv's "True Life" (from 1998..?) regarding 2 gothic bass playing chicks who were crying at Cliff's memorial (in San Fran) and then went home to listen to "Orion" over and over while, again, crying?

I would LOVE to find that episode... maybe you too

MarTONEbass · #**494** 07-01-2010, 05:42 PM

Cliff was one of my first influences and I've been playing for 20+ years. I have moved on through my natural evolution, but I still love listening to him.

gabrielesquarat · #**495** 09-12-2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brewer9

I have NO problem with Cliff. He was my idol (i saw him live back when Kill 'em All was a NEW album!). I was commenting about the previous post. If you go back and read the post right before my last one you'll see that someone said no one will recognize Gezzer Butler as a BASS GOD while he's still alive. To that i say "wrongo." Geezer is and always has been my BASS GOD. He's a Living Legend if there ever was one.

Does that explain it?

lol he's all but living