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06-12-2009, 01:01 AM
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do you think if he was alive today, he could've become the best metal bassist? 
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06-12-2009, 09:38 AM
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06-12-2009, 09:40 AM
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There would not be a Black album and Metallica would not be nearly as big.
But he would still be amazing.
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06-12-2009, 09:40 AM
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06-12-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeyswood There would not be a Black album. | No big loss 
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06-12-2009, 09:59 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Peavey, Conklin | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ruston, LA | | | Man, he really wasn't anything but an innovator. I personally didn't think he was AMAZING, but he surely had some fresh ideas and was on the top of his game at the time.
Today, there are so many people doing so many experimental things with bass, he wouldn't stand out as much, but what do I know.
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06-12-2009, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by El Beardo No big loss | +1  |
06-12-2009, 10:06 AM
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06-12-2009, 10:16 AM
| | | | I'm not a fan of Metal, but from what I've heard, I appreciate what he did as a bassist. I also think that he was a much better player then Newsted is IMO.
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06-12-2009, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by countrybassist I'm not a fan of Metal, but from what I've heard, I appreciate what he did as a bassist. I also think that he was a much better player then Newsted is IMO. | I would want to hear some recorded tracks by both of them in isolation before I made a call on that.
Newsted owned Burton on tone -- technique, hard to say. |
06-12-2009, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jaywa I would want to hear some recorded tracks by both of them in isolation before I made a call on that.
Newsted owned Burton on tone -- technique, hard to say. | Tone wise, Yes I agree with you. And although Burtons technique wasn't say outstanding, I think that it was better than Newsteds. Certainly not taking anything away from either of them. |
06-12-2009, 10:38 AM
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But others say they can hear him fine, so probably just me. |
06-12-2009, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jaywa Newsted owned Burton on tone | Yea, just listen to And Justice For All.....lulz. Seriously though I have to disagree with you on that.
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06-12-2009, 10:41 AM
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06-12-2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by El Beardo Yea, just listen to And Justice For All..... | Yeah I was waiting for that. You have to take that album out of the equation altogether because Newsted was intentionally mixed out of that record and Hetfield and Ulrich have acknowledged that as fact. Maybe someday after those two are dead and gone someone will remix that record so it sounds like it should have in the first place. |
06-12-2009, 10:53 AM
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06-12-2009, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jaywa Yeah I was waiting for that. You have to take that album out of the equation altogether because Newsted was intentionally mixed out of that record and Hetfield and Ulrich have acknowledged that as fact. Maybe someday after those two are dead and gone someone will remix that record so it sounds like it should have in the first place. | Correct.
That album is full of Cliff Burton legacy.
On the Black Album they threw that all away. |
06-12-2009, 11:09 AM
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06-12-2009, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by El Beardo Yea, just listen to And Justice For All.....lulz. Seriously though I have to disagree with you on that. | Yea, but then listen to Newsted on $5.98 Garage Days.... Great tone IMO. |
06-12-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 7StringBassist Nope, he was good never the best | I have a problem with calling any musician the "best" tbh, it's pointless and subjective all at the same time. Quote:
Originally Posted by BassScum Yea, but then listen to Newsted on $5.98 Garage Days.... Great tone IMO. | +1 I agree I just prefer Burton's tone, that's just me.
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