Cliff Williams on Black Ice - nice tone

[ihateusernames]

As a producer Brenden O'Brien was perfect on this one. This is a very balanced mix, everything in it's place, yet everything seems to stand out on it's own - great, great, great work.

On to the thread title, what do you suppose Cliff used for recording on this one? Stingray with flatrounds? mostly direct signal? primarily mic'd Ampeg?

What do you think of the tone, like it? Hate it?

Personally I think the midrange has a nice texture and the E string has some awesome guts.

I'd all but given up on AC/DC after the most recent albums but this is a great rock album!

Open for discussion on all points!

[odin70]

my guess is a stingray with flats.

[jaywa]

Originally Posted by ihateusernames

As a producer Brenden O'Brien was perfect on this one. This is a very balanced mix, everything in it's place, yet everything seems to stand out on it's own - great, great, great work.

Brenden O'Brien is behind some of the best sounding records I have ever heard. He did RHCP Blood Sugar Sex Magik and if anyone can find anything wrong with how that record sounds then they are in the wrong business. It just blew me away how you could hear every instrument, with amazing tone, at a nice strong volume yet the whole mix sound good together as well.

I believe he also did an STP record or two and those sound great as well.

[Rickett Customs]

Originally Posted by jaywa

He did RHCP Blood Sugar Sex Magik

Sorry bro, that was Rick Rubin, nice try though.

[ReidoT]

Originally Posted by Alembicplyr

Sorry bro, that was Rick Rubin, nice try though.

I think Rick Rubin and Brendan O'Brien both did the mixing on that one

[warwick_thumper]

Brendan engineered and mixed blood sugar sex magik so he is technically responsible for the way that album sounds. As far as stuff he has produced, you should know that O'Brien is a bass player himself as well as an organ player. He engineered the first two Black Crowes albums and Blood Sugar Sex Magik then became his own engineer, mixer, and engineer. Other classic albums beside RHCP and STP include RATM's "Evil Empire" and "Battle of Los Angeles", Incubus' last two cd's (tasty Ben Kenney tones) and Audioslave's "Revelations." Also Korn's "Issues" and the forthcoming Mastodon album.

[Rickett Customs]

Originally Posted by ReidoT

I think Rick Rubin and Brendan O'Brien both did the mixing on that one

I didn't see him in the credits, i'll research that one though.

[Rickett Customs]

It appears he did some keyboard,engineered and mixed on that one, no production though.

[Rickett Customs]

Although he did production on "Core", that's another good produced album. Evil Empire was good too. Matter of fact, most of these albums were produced well:

* Call of the Wild - The Swinging Richards (1985)
* Doug - The Coolies (1988)
* You - Uncle Green (1990)
* The Big House of Time - Anne Richmond Boston (1990)
* Undertown - Right as Rain (1990)
* What an Experiment His Head Was - Uncle Green (1991)
* Love Songs for the Hearing Impaired - Dan Baird (1991)
* Stop! Look & Listen - Right as Rain (1991)
* Follow for Now - Follow for Now (1991)
* Johnny Law - Johnny Law (1991)
* Core - Stone Temple Pilots (1992)
* Book of Bad Thoughts - Uncle Green (1992)
* Jackyl - Jackyl (1992)
* Let It Rock: The Best of the Georgia Satellites - The Georgia Satellites (1993)
* Vs. - Pearl Jam (1993)
* Dynamite Monster Boogie Concert - Raging Slab (1993)
* Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Volume 3 - Bob Dylan (1993)
* Dogman - King's X (1994)
* Necktie Second - Pete Droge (1994)
* Purple - Stone Temple Pilots (1994)
* Vulture - 3 lb. thrill (1994)
* Vitalogy - Pearl Jam (1994)
* 100% Fun - Matthew Sweet (1995)
* Vulture - 3 lb. Thrill (1995)
* Deadly Nightshade - The Deadly Nightshades (1995)
* Mirror Ball - Neil Young with Pearl Jam (1995)
* Point - Ernie Dale (1995)
* Unshaven: Live at Smith's Olde Bar - Billy Joe Shaver (1995)
* Buffalo Nickel - Dan Baird (1996)
* Eventually - Paul Westerberg (1996)
* Evil Empire - Rage Against the Machine (1996)
* Find a Door - Pete Droge and the Sinners (1996)
* No Code - Pearl Jam (1996)
* Tiny Music... Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop - Stone Temple Pilots (1996)
* Blue Sky on Mars - Matthew Sweet (1997)
* Resigned - Michael Penn (1997)
* Spacey & Shakin' - Pete Droge (1997)
* Yield - Pearl Jam (1998)
* Dangerman - Dangerman (1998)
* No. 4 - Stone Temple Pilots (1999)
* Issues - KoЯn (1999)
* The Battle of Los Angeles - Rage Against the Machine (1999)
* Bachelor No. 2 - Aimee Mann (2000)
* Conspiracy Of One - The Offspring (2000)
* Shangri-La Dee Da - Stone Temple Pilots (2001)
* Drops of Jupiter - Train (2001)
* Tragic Show - Brand New Immortals (2001)
* Waste of Skin - Spike 1000 (2001)
* The Flying Tigers - Flying Tigers (2002)
* Future Shock - Sinisstar (2002)
* Jinx - Quarashi (2002)
* Great Ocean Road - Ether (2002)
* lovehatetragedy - Papa Roach (2002)
* The Rising - Bruce Springsteen (2002)
* My Private Nation - Train (2003)
* Splinter - The Offspring (2003)
* The Thorns - The Thorns (2003)
* A Crow Left of the Murder - Incubus (2004)
* Alive at Red Rocks - Incubus (2004)
* Drive - Graham Colton Band (2004)
* Welcome to the North - The Music (2004)
* Devils and Dust - Bruce Springsteen (2005)
* Rebel, Sweetheart - The Wallflowers (2005)
* All the Stars and Boulevards - Augustana (2005)
* Shine - Trey Anastasio (2005)
* For Me, It's You - Train (2006)
* Revelations - Audioslave (2006)
* Light Grenades - Incubus (2006)
* One Man Revolution - The Nightwatchman (2007)
* The Sun and the Moon - The Bravery (2007)
* Libertad - Velvet Revolver (2007)
* Magic - Bruce Springsteen (2007)
* Sweat It Out - The Pink Spiders (2008)
* No Regrets - Set it Off (2008)
* Too Human - Lounge fly (2008)
* TBA - Pearl Jam[1] (2008/2009)
* Crack the Skye - Mastodon (2009)
* TBA - Billy Talent
* Black Ice - AC/DC (2008)
* TBA - Bruce Springsteen (2008/2009)

[Rickett Customs]

Oh yeah, he was also the original guitarist for The Georgia satellites

[Surly]

Good album. On a trip we stopped at Wal-Mart and picked up the new album. Nice corporate rock for ya! Good for the first few songs than the everything sounds the same. I like Ac/Dc a lot though, they're great in concert.

[Sneckumhaw]

Originally Posted by Alembicplyr

Oh yeah, he was also the original guitarist for Georgia and the satellites

Georgia and the satellites????

[Rickett Customs]

Originally Posted by Sneckumhaw

Georgia and the satellites????

My bad, it was a rush job,

"The Georgia Satellites", I stand corrected sir.

[shane6969]

Yeah, nice album. The bass sounds awesome. I personally think the AC/DC album in which the bass sounds the best (my taste only) is POWERAGE.

[mcm]

I really dig the tone. More than likely it was his pre-ernie ball stingray. The album is very good. And of course it sounds the same! It is rock n roll people.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by Surly

Good album. On a trip we stopped at Wal-Mart and picked up the new album. Nice corporate rock for ya! Good for the first few songs than the everything sounds the same.

How dare you! Corporate rock? Journey is corporate rock. Starship is corporate rock. AC/DC is anything but.

I liked your comment about how everything sounds the same, though. AC/DC has made the same album 15 times over, so I'm not surprised. But if everything they did didn't sound the same, they'd suck

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by fenderhutz

Fix'd

My words are not to be touched by the likes of you, especially when you change them to something I would never say in a million years.

[fenderhutz]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

My words are not to be touched by the likes of you, especially when you change them to something I would never say in a million years.

Oh well, life goes on.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by fenderhutz

Oh well, life goes on.

Damn right!



You didn't have to delete your post, dude...I was yanking your chain a little. But just the same, as AC/DC is the second greatest rock band in history (next to the Beatles), I appreciate you showing a little respect.

[fenderhutz]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Damn right!



You didn't have to delete your post, dude...I was yanking your chain a little. But just the same, as AC/DC is the second greatest rock band in history (next to the Beatles), I appreciate you showing a little respect.

Didn't delete it, check my sig