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07-01-2009, 08:59 AM
| | | | CRONOS and early VENOM
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Once again I say EARLY Venom, as in the first two records and the EPs around that time. I was a true metalhead in the early 80s, and I thought CRONOS was the coolest.
The absolutely black sludgy bass on "Black Metal" still rules. No one slides and booms your speakers like him. "Buried Alive" was so creepy and the bass is so evil. "Countess Bathory", "Leave Me in Hell", "To Hell and Back", etc, are great examples of pure satanic majesty on the four strings. The bass solo in "1000 Days in Sodom" on the "Welcome to Hell" album is still one of my faves today. I love the raging Motorhead style riffing on this album and the constant "wooh wooh wooooom" of Cronos's signature bass lick just kills. I saw him with a Jazz bass recently and thought "oh no, no god!"... Cronos is just so not a Jazz player. I also remember a live video where his bass cuts out in the opening song with all the pyros n stuff, and he just destroys the bass instead of fixing it. Right up there with Hendrix for me. Too bad Venom became as goofy as Manowar.
I liked them better when I was terrified and scared of going to Hell... |
07-01-2009, 10:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Frozen Wastelands of Michigan | | | It seems me and you are the only ones who like Cronos' bass playing. Everyone always rants about how his playing is simple. This ain't jazz, THIS IS METAL. That last sentence is so true. When I first heard Venom, I thought Cronos' vocals were the voice of Satan.
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07-01-2009, 11:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Connecticut | | | Man I love his playing! Simple but effective. Bass playing doesent need to be all complex. Sometimes simplicity is the best. |
07-01-2009, 11:11 AM
| | | | I feel for all the uptight 'proper' and jazzy players who've never done a huge satanic slide on their E or B string and then banged an open chord. With distortion. In the name of Satan nonetheless. Coolness can't be measured in complexity. It just gives you a headache anyways. |
07-01-2009, 04:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Washington DC | | | I would not say his bass lines were so simple, especially if you consider he was singing at the same time. They were very efficient and supporting the tunes, in that particular style.
I had the chance to spend some time with Venom in Paris in the early 80's, and see them during rehersal, he was clearly the best in the band.
I have stopped hearing Metal since years now, so I don't know what happened to Venom, but I suppose they have split.
Where did you see him recently?
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07-01-2009, 05:00 PM
| | | | Venom released a CD called "Hell" late '08. Okay but not like the old days at all. |
07-01-2009, 05:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Breakeyville (Québec) | | | isn't it him that had frets on the lower note of his neck and fretless for the rest? |
07-02-2009, 05:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Washington DC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Greevus  Venom released a CD called "Hell" late '08. Okay but not like the old days at all. | I didn't know they were still playing.
Is that still the same lineup?
Did they lose their energy an sense of humor?
I'll try to hear some of their new songs somewhere.
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07-02-2009, 10:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denton, Texas USA | | | I love Venom. I used to have a live DVD of a concert from around 85. Cronos bass solo is hilarious, basically him hitting open chords and sliding his fingers up the neck while running through a bunch of effects then flashing the devil sign. The crowd loves it.
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07-02-2009, 03:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Wunderful I love Venom. I used to have a live DVD of a concert from around 85. Cronos bass solo is hilarious, basically him hitting open chords and sliding his fingers up the neck while running through a bunch of effects then flashing the devil sign. The crowd loves it. | Can't say I'm a fan of Cronos or Venom, but I have that video and I show it to people at parties when I want to make people laugh. 
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07-02-2009, 04:36 PM
| | | | Love him or hate him, Cronos has been releasing records since '81. Venom were the biggest selling indie band for years before mp3s took over. I think the fact that you guys have the DVDs and keep playing them means you are closeted and in love with Cronos. It's okay, I won't tell the "real" bassists. |
07-03-2009, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Greevus Love him or hate him, Cronos has been releasing records since '81. Venom were the biggest selling indie band for years before mp3s took over. I think the fact that you guys have the DVDs and keep playing them means you are closeted and in love with Cronos. It's okay, I won't tell the "real" bassists. | Well. I bought it at a pawn shop on VHS for 25 cents, so I don't know about that.
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07-03-2009, 08:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Frozen Wastelands of Michigan | | | Whats wrong with loving Cronos? He's badass, plays bass(I think he's great, don't get why people love hating him), and hes in Venom, FREAKING VENOM!
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07-06-2009, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DoomandHeavy Whats wrong with loving Cronos? He's badass, plays bass(I think he's great, don't get why people love hating him), and hes in Venom, FREAKING VENOM! | +1000
Venom rules!!! |
07-06-2009, 12:14 AM
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07-06-2009, 03:14 PM
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