Darryl Jones: never any mentions here

[Music_for_life]

He is one of the most proficient session bassists of all history, played with Miles, Madonna, Sting, BB King, Mike stern and then the Rolling Stones.
Now I am sure his wallet is very big but besides that ,,nobody talks much about his bass lines or the songs he was involved...
Do you think being part of the Rolling Stones ´ve keept some jazz and fusion bass players or musicians out of his material.

Can you recomend some great bass lines with and without the stones?? Cause I`ve heard he is so great.. All the top people he played with makes him perhaps the nr1 session player. However the material I`ve heard is very good, it is not so incredible and tasty as other great sesion bass players.

[Chrisk-K]

Let me just say that I much prefer Sting's bass work to DJ's bass work with Sting.

[Mark Wilson]

DJ was killing it with Steps Ahead IMO

[billgwx]

Now that I think of it, Darryl Jones had a pretty big influence on my bass playing. Miles Davis's "Decoy" was a real eye opener for me at the time...especially Darryl's slapping and John Scofield's guitar. Got me to explore slapping for a while, which forced me as a lefty to switch from playing a righty upside down (which I'd been doing from the start for about 7-8 years) to a true left handed bass, so my fingers would be in the right position for the style.

That said, I actually prefer Darryl's non-slap playing on Miles's "You're Under Arrest" from a year later. Check out his playing on the title track...I spent a lot of time learning that one note for note.

Darryl also turns in some fine playing on Sco's "Still Warm" from that same era.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by billgwx

Darryl also turns in some fine playing on Sco's "Still Warm" from that same era.

+1 I especially love Darryl's playing on the opening track from that record!

[corinpills]

Wow. Or maybe he took it for the chance to play one of the greatest song catalogs of all time in giant stadiums full of people singing along. It's so shallow to think that he'd rather be playing obscure noodling in front of a couple dozen other bass players in a jazz club. He's gets to be part of one of the most amazing collections of songs (you know, songs? The things that change societies and last forever), in a band known for the unique rhythmic aspects of their arrangements, with one of the greatest frontmen this side of James Brown.

And maybe the lesson that Darryl reinforces is the one that pops up all the time on this forum: that a lot the things that younger players are led to believe are important actually don't mean as much as being supportive and laying it down. The very nature of the questions is "I don't get it, I've head he's great, but I can't find any record where he plays really fast and does a bunch tricks". Music is not motocross.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by corinpills

Music is not motocross.

If I had a sig that might be it!

[Music_for_life]

Originally Posted by corinpills

Wow. Or maybe he took it for the chance to play one of the greatest song catalogs of all time in giant stadiums full of people singing along. It's so shallow to think that he'd rather be playing obscure noodling in front of a couple dozen other bass players in a jazz club. He's gets to be part of one of the most amazing collections of songs (you know, songs? The things that change societies and last forever), in a band known for the unique rhythmic aspects of their arrangements, with one of the greatest frontmen this side of James Brown.

And maybe the lesson that Darryl reinforces is the one that pops up all the time on this forum: that a lot the things that younger players are led to believe are important actually don't mean as much as being supportive and laying it down. The very nature of the questions is "I don't get it, I've head he's great, but I can't find any record where he plays really fast and does a bunch tricks". Music is not motocross.

NOBODY WAS REFERING HERE AS MUSIC IS LIKE MOTOCROSS, there your are wrong!!
I can name you a bunch of bass players more respected for eleganant and tastefull playing than Darryl Jones....I was asking if I am missing something because he is always getting the best calls!! Pino is a tastefull player, roscoe beck another, nathan other, here most talk about others, why?????
We are always saying how great was for once in my life bass line or phil chen lines with rod stewart of freddie washington slap lines....
I`ve never listen someting like that about Darryl Jones, nevertheless he is always there on top...I wonder why...

[T-MOST]

Originally Posted by Music_for_life

NOBODY WAS REFERING HERE AS MUSIC IS LIKE MOTOCROSS, there your are wrong!!
I can name you a bunch of bass players more respected for eleganant and tastefull playing than Darryl Jones....I was asking if I am missing something because he is always getting the best calls!! Pino is a tastefull player, roscoe beck another, nathan other, here most talk about others, why?????
We are always saying how great was for once in my life bass line or phil chen lines with rod stewart of freddie washington slap lines....
I`ve never listen someting like that about Darryl Jones, nevertheless he is always there on top...I wonder why...

I can say my 2 fav bassists are Nathan East (not flashy just super damn tasteful) and Marcus Miller (Flashy when he needs to be and super solid and tasteful when he needs to be). Yet both of these guys are on the A+ list. Flash by itself is fun to watch and play but in the end it doesn't mean anything.

[m.oreilly]

Darryl Jones? he's awesome.

[willgroove2]

This long but if you get time please watch and listen to get a clear picture of where Darryl is coming from very interesting


http://www.bassplayer.com/Video.aspx...ection=artists

[JimK]

Originally Posted by Chrisk-K

Let me just say that I much prefer Sting's bass work to DJ's bass work with Sting.

I was gonna say I prefer Bill Wyman with The Stones over DJ (& I am no Wyman fan)...the Stones are supposed to be "raw", DJ has too much technique for that.
That said, I think DJ's playing with The Blue Turtles band is very, very good.

The aforementioned Scofield album & the Live Steps Ahead album are good, too.
Miles' Decoy was one of the very 1st cds I owned (I bought a Sony cd player & coupons for Sony discs came with it)....that album has fond memories for me, too.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by Music_for_life

I`ve never listen someting like that about Darryl Jones, nevertheless he is always there on top...I wonder why...

He obviously has skills (music & people)...ever see the Bring On The Night movie/DVD? That he landed the Miles' gig so young musta been a great confidence builder...he is not lacking in that department.

[jamesie]

Originally Posted by m.oreilly

Darryl Jones? he's awesome.

for sure, yes he is

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by JimK

He obviously has skills (music & people)

^^^That. Absolutely do not underestimate his people skills. No matter how talented someone is, if you can't be uber-professional when the bass isn't in your hands, you will not be getting calls from Sting, Madonna, Peter Gabriel, The Stones, etc.

[biggreddbass]

Check out Bill Evans (sax player) "Let the Juice Loose", live @ the Blue Note Tokyo from the early 90's. Great grooves & bad ass bass solo. Darryl & Dennis Chambers are killin' it.

[johnboy65]

You think he cares? He's in the Rolling Stones!! Got a signature Lakland and did Steps Ahead.
I think it's also a real talent to land some of the high profile gigs he has. But i like Wyman's Stones work and Sting is a favorite as well. Miles had so many great players around him that it's easy to lost in that shuffle. BB King, I couldn't name anyone that he's had in his bands. Mike Stern, Scofield... 99% of people've never heard of them (I'm a 1%er).
Adding that Darryl isn't a big solo guy and I think you get your answer.

[corinpills]

Originally Posted by johnboy65

You think he cares? He's in the Rolling Stones!! Got a signatur BB King, I couldn't name anyone that he's had in his bands. Mike Stern, Scofield... 99% of people've never heard of them (I'm a 1%er).
Adding that Darryl isn't a big solo guy and I think you get your answer.

BB had a guy named Jerry Jemmot for a while who I believe went on to play on a few other records.

[Marty Forrer]

I saw the Stones with DJ, and it didn't matter how good he is. The sound engineer got it all wrong.... the bass was an indistinct rumble. Which goes for about 90% of concerts I've seen.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by corinpills

Wow. Or maybe he took it for the chance to play one of the greatest song catalogs of all time in giant stadiums full of people singing along. It's so shallow to think that he'd rather be playing obscure noodling in front of a couple dozen other bass players in a jazz club. He's gets to be part of one of the most amazing collections of songs (you know, songs? The things that change societies and last forever), in a band known for the unique rhythmic aspects of their arrangements, with one of the greatest frontmen this side of James Brown.

And maybe the lesson that Darryl reinforces is the one that pops up all the time on this forum: that a lot the things that younger players are led to believe are important actually don't mean as much as being supportive and laying it down. The very nature of the questions is "I don't get it, I've head he's great, but I can't find any record where he plays really fast and does a bunch tricks". Music is not motocross.

I don't think the Rolling Stones have one of the greatest catalog of all time. I have gone for 30 + years without playing a Stones tune live. As with many bands past their prime, I think it's a little pathetic that they can't see they need to give it up. Enough is enough. I get tired of seeing these octogenarians trying to play live. They are not in their 20's any more, and let's face it, as much as we say how great it is that they are still going at it after all these years, we all know they need to stop.

I do agree with your 2nd paragraph.